Indian domestic cricket/ players

[Kumar]

By the way, P Singh finally played as wicket keeper for his state side. He failed with the bat in both the innings. Still if he wants to make the test squad as keeper he needs to play in Ranji as keeper.

Jalaj Saxena absolutely had a dream outing scoring 80 runs (batting as opening batsman) and getting 13 wickets including 9 wickets in an innings against Bengal. He is 37 years old. Amazing what he is doing. Hats off to him.

Chintan Gaja (24 ball, 15 bat) and Nagaswalla (22 ball and 31 bat) doing well for Gujarat. Still strange that Nagaswalla was not selected , but Yash Dayal (32 with ball and 2.5 with bat) and Arshdeep singh (33 with ball and 12 with bat) were picked for Indian A team

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Nagaswalla (22 ball and 31 bat) doing well for Gujarat. Still strange that Nagaswalla was not selected , but Yash Dayal (32 with ball and 2.5 with bat) and Arshdeep singh (33 with ball and 12 with bat) were picked for Indian A team

Good to see u speaking for a India A player, with 36 bowling average in SENA, with no batting abilities.
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[prasen9]

Time does not stand still.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Arzan always had domestic performances but his performances in SENA were questioned, since then he has'nt played in SENA,so his SENA stats ( his time) has'nt changed, now asking him for India A chance is double standard

[Kumar]

Unadkat had better FC stats and was a better batsman. So i had no problems with him getting selected over Arzan. This was specifically for the indian team.

On the other hand, Arshdeep and Yash Dayal have no FC figures worth talking about. They were selected to A team because they play IPL. Both of them barely played Ranj last year and did not turn out for duleep trophy. Same story for Padaikkal who was also pitchforked into A team totally out of nowhere

[Rajkumar Sharma]

What was Unadkat's performance after his 12 year comeback ? How many 5 fers or 100s he scored with the bat. For certain players you can try newcommers over them and for certain you are going back 12 years. If domestic performances are considered for selection, then every performances should be rewarded. Arshdeep might have worst stats in FC but he his picked based on his county stats just like Saini. Dayal is getting reward for his previous performances

[prasen9]

Padikkal had a good Ranji season it seems. Anyway, people who can't average 50's in our bloated, weak Ranji will most possibly not make it in tests. I am pretty sure. Waiting for exceptions to emerge. We saw that with Yuvraj Singh. We will see that with others soon. Patidar possibly. He may be fine in India but abroad will be found wanting. I am waiting to see how Sarfaraz bats in tests. We need to give both Patidar and Sarfaraz a serious run though and not kick them out to keep Gill in the team. Unless, of course, Gill rewards the faith with a couple of centuries in this series. Then, I will shut up and be a Gill fan.

[Kumar]

Padaikkal when he was picked for India A team was averaging 38 in FC (and had just averaged 37 runs in 2023 ranji season). A team is being almost treated as defacto selection grounds. My problem is that IPL is treated as primary selection criteria for A team.

Both Sai and Padaikkal got selected because Eashwaran and Gaikwad were not available. Padaikkal played a coveted 1 down for his state side. But played in the RSA test as converted opener where he scored 30 runs.

The common theme to that A team selection is prioritizing players with IPL selection. When PRP failed in warmup match and first england A match, Padaikkal was selected for unofficial second test . PRP had a century in RSA and has a good FC stats. In that same match Padaikkal just scored 30 runs. How are we going to groom players if we don’t have patience to give them long run in A matches? Eashwaran has gotten lot of A matches. All of the other players have been shuttled back and forth.

[Kumar]

What was Unadkat's performance after his 12 year comeback ? How many 5 fers or 100s he scored with the bat. For certain players you can try newcommers over them and for certain you are going back 12 years. If domestic performances are considered for selection, then every performances should be rewarded. Arshdeep might have worst stats in FC but he his picked based on his county stats just like Saini. Dayal is getting reward for his previous performances

Unadkat had a fantastic 2023 Ranji season where he averaged 17 runs with bat and 13 with ball. So it was not like his performance happened 12 years back. I don’t know if he played A tours and how he performed in them. U could probably make a case that Indian A team should have been the basis of selection criteria. Due to covid not many A games were being played so my guess is this was an exception that we will not see in future

As to Arshdeep he averaged 41 with ball in county. On what basis is that good criteria.


https://wisden.com/series-stories/india ... -the-world

The article that talks about how Indian A performance has been given the most weightage for team selection. Unfortunately, the selection to this team appears to be on whim

[prasen9]

The way India A team is done, it is a joke. You get lucky in 2-3 matches and you get a promotion. I think we have seen only Sarfaraz, Easwaran given longer runs and thus their performance or lack thereof means something. Padikkal has always had the Karnataka lobby plumping for him and like Rahul, he is the holder of the silver spoon. So, when he played 2-3 innings against England Lions, he got called up despite his long list of failures. I think to his credit though, in the last year in Ranjis he has scored runs. And, he did score some runs against the England Lions. So, he is in form. They are going by form and not by class. The classy batters: PRP, Rinku, NTTV (including him with an eye test since his numbers are useless being from Plate), Prabhsimran need to understand this and whenever given a chance hope they do not get a bad ball, etc. that gets them. Try your best to do whatever you can in the 2-3 India A games. Then, hope you win the lottery. That is what it is now. A very "regimented" (from the Guardian article) lottery.

[PKBasu]

Rinku was in line for a promotion but he got two ducks in successive matches against England Lions. That put paid to his chances.

Easwaran too failed against England Lions. He peaked at the beginning of last year on the tour of Bangladesh, with two centuries against B'desh A. He should have got his test chance then, but was denied. It hasn't been smooth sailing for him since. I think he's lost his opportunity. Not for the first time either. The season after first making it to the test squad, he had a horror domestic season.

[prasen9]

So, with some number of Ranji games over, the top batters are as follows (qual:430 runs, by average):

Jagadeesan (104), Padikkal (93), Bhui (86), Paliwal (83), Sachin Baby (80), Pujara (75)

Great going by Pujara. Of these, none of them have that much of a pedigree except maybe Jaga. He is also an opening batsman, at which position we may need someone after Rohit.

How good or bad is Jaga, Kumar? I know you follow TN a bit. Is there a chance of seeing him in India-A colors soon? Or will he be considered too old? I mean we get a keeper and an opener in one fell swoop. Why not?

[Kumar]

Jagadeesan has done well the past two seasons with this season taking it a step further. The caveat is that he appears to be almost or below average against good sides and piling on bad sides.

This season he scored a 321 against chandigargh (7th worst team) and 245 against Railways (decent team). Against top two teams (Gujarat and Karnataka), he scored 82 runs in 4 innings. PRP scored 154 in 4 innings averaging around 50 (remaining not out in losing cause against Gujarat when he ran out of partners). In Last season, Jaga scored centuries against Assam and Hyderabad the two worst teams in the group. Jagadeesh has not delivered in IPL and it is almost impossible to make the team as batsman without IPL prowess. U can recover from IPL failures, but u need to be absolutely dominating Ranji aka Sarfaraz. With Kishen, Jurel and Kushagra all players with IPL brand, very difficult for him to make the team

Actually Ricky Bhui is a more interesting name.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ranj ... ra-1419091

He has been on a upswing as well. For context, was selected as wicket keeper batsman for south zone over Jagadeesh. In fact Jaga had better average but Ricky did better against stronger opponents. Ricky did not do as well for south zone though.

Ricky Bhui and PRP have a difficult path to middle order slot in Indian A team. At present, NTTV, Padaikkal, Rinku Singh are all ahead of them considering their IPL prowess .


I would put Pujara in test team over both Gill and KL in a heart beat

[Kumar]

By the way there are rumors that Ishan Kishan is being adked to play the last ranji match for Jharkhand.

Will he or not? And if he does not, Will BCCI prevent him from playing IPL?

[prasen9]

Kishan is a meek character. If the BCCI sends him a letter, he will play for Jharkhand.

I would not go back to Pujara. We need to build up the next gen. Sarfaraz needs to get a full run.