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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby S_K_S » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:40 pm

Indian Wells proving that if the big guns were to play doubles regularly then the doubles rankings would look quite different

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby sameerph » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:30 pm

It looks likely to switch to best of 3 sets and 2 days format from next year -

Davis Cup May Switch to Best-of-Three-Set Matches

I think that would really kill the fun in davis cup and make it more of a chance.

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby jaydeep » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:20 pm

In my view, if this happens then that would be a terrible decision ... Why they r doing this I really don't know, reason is viewership for World Group matches r really good.

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby prasen9 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:00 pm

S_K_S wrote:Indian Wells proving that if the big guns were to play doubles regularly then the doubles rankings would look quite different
I thought the Olympics already proved that :-)

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby prasen9 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:01 pm

sameerph wrote:It looks likely to switch to best of 3 sets and 2 days format from next year -

Davis Cup May Switch to Best-of-Three-Set Matches

I think that would really kill the fun in davis cup and make it more of a chance.
Maybe that is better for India to score an upset :-) Having said that, I would always prefer the 5 set option.

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby PKBasu » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:44 pm

The Davis Cup is such a great tennis brand (outside the US). The ITF seems intent on killing one of the geese that lays its golden eggs.

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby arjun2761 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:29 pm

prasen9 wrote:
S_K_S wrote:Indian Wells proving that if the big guns were to play doubles regularly then the doubles rankings would look quite different
I thought the Olympics already proved that :-)


Top singles players are certainly better tennis players than almost all of the doubles specialists but that said doubles does emphasize some specialized skills that not all good singles players have or develop. Most important, is the huge impact of net play in doubles against the minimal impact of net play in singles as doubles requires commanding the net whereas in singles that is rarely required. Bottom line is that I think many of the singles big guns would dominate in doubles but not necessarily all of them.

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby S_K_S » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:15 pm

prasen9 wrote:
S_K_S wrote:Indian Wells proving that if the big guns were to play doubles regularly then the doubles rankings would look quite different
I thought the Olympics already proved that :-)


Can't say I remember anything about the tennis at Olympics other than Murray winning. Wasn't very memorable for me.

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby PKBasu » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:33 am

Djoker losing to DelPotro was pretty memorable too. Plus the Mixed Doubles SF, although the result was a disappointment.

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby PKBasu » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:41 am

The singles draw at Indian Wells was absurdly lopsided, with Federer drawn to play Nadal in the PQF, and Djokovic in the QF -- and Djokovic himself facing DelPotro in R3, and Kyrgios in R4 (PQF). The latter had to overcome Sasha (Alexander) Zverev to get to his match against Djoker, who he beat. Surely, tournament directors need to use more discretion in seedings than simply follow the current ATP standings!

Anyway, there have been shocks galore. Andy Murray wasted his great draw by losing early to Pospisil in R2 (effectively R1 for Murray, who had a bye in R1 like most seeds). Pospisil was then beaten by Lajovic, who lost to Carreno-Busta, and the latter has made the SF just now (beating Cuevas).

In the nightmare section of the draw, the QF will be between Federer and Kyrgios, after the latter beat Djokovic in R4 (after the latter had beaten DelPotro in a 3-setter in R3). Federer beat Nadal in R4 (62 63).

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby PKBasu » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:58 am

The 35 year old adds the Indian Wells title to his Australian Open one, and stays atop the Race to London rankings. His official ATP ranking is still only #6, but that will steadily get better over the next few months.
The second coming of Federer seems in full flow!

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby Varma » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:37 am

Federer is playing ultra-aggressive right from get go in pretty much every match. His backhand, which used to be the prime target for most of his opponents, has transformed into a lethal weapon that is mercilessly decimating anyone standing across the net. With Murray and Djokovic withdrawing from Miami, Federer won't be running into any of the bigger names until the last 4 stage. If his body holds up well, it will be tough for anyone to stop him lifting another trophy in 2 weeks.

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby Prashant » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:42 am

If Kyrgios is healthy, both physically and mentally, he can upset Federer. Otherwise, absent Murray and Djokovic, he will be favored...

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby PKBasu » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:20 am

At 29, Djokovic and Murray suddenly seem to be afflicted with injuries and self-doubt as the 35-year-old blazes forth. The men's game's centre of gravity has shifted to the 30-somethings almost imperceptibly. Wawrinka will be 32 soon, Rafa turns 31 in June.

The next generation is still struggling to shine through: Nishikori has Chang's weaknesses, Thiem/Kyrgios/Dimitrov/AZverev show promise but are yet to fulfil it. This looks like the year when someone from the next generation will finally come through to challenge Federer, who just needs to harness his physical abilities properly to stay dominant this year. He himself doubts his ability to win in Key Biscayne ("Miami Masters") immediately after Indian Wells -- not sure of whether his body will hold up. Federer is feeling the stones at the bottom of the river as he gently treads across, but keeps calling this a dream coming true. But the dream last all year!!

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Re: ATP Tennis/Non-India Davis Cup

Postby Rajiv » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:56 am

Hong Kong rightly refuses to travel to Pakistan for the DC tie and have to unfortunately give a walkover , ITF refused to play on a neutral venue as was the case in the past , citing recent visit by Iran to Pakistan for the their last tie , This is wrong judgement to compare Iran's willingness to travel who themselves are in a similar situation as Pakistan in view of sanctions and would travel anywhere given any chance.

It is a big setback for Karan who prepared so much in planning and rejuvenating his singles career and along with his talented and promising youngsters was well poised to take HKG in Group II and this heavy handed inconsiderate decision by ITF has put a spanner in their plans and is now back to the drawing board for Karan & Co.


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