Roland Garros Claycourt Run-Up Tournaments 2024

[prasen9]

Well, if he withdrew, he would have withdrawn from all. The question is why he is not listed as withdrawn, right?

[prasen9]

But, how did Sumit get into Barcelona? I see Nakashima entry rank 92 is still in the ALT. And, Sumit's entry rank was 97? Barcelona seems to have cleared only up to entry rank 85. Kei Nishikori got a wildcard in Barcelona. Alcaraz and Nadal are bout doubtful for Barcelona.

Munich has cleared up to 104. So, he should have been in. Bucharest to 101. But, he possibly would not have gone that far?

[jayakris]

Well, if he withdrew, he would have withdrawn from all. The question is why he is not listed as withdrawn, right?

That is the question. I think players disappear from the QUALIFYING entry list with ATP (not even shown as "withdrawn") only when they get a wildcard somewhere. They show up in the main draw list when they release it. I am not 100% sure of this though.

[jayakris]

But, how did Sumit get into Barcelona? I see Nakashima entry rank 92 is still in the ALT. And, Sumit's entry rank was 97? Barcelona seems to have cleared only up to entry rank 85. Kei Nishikori got a wildcard in Barcelona. Alcaraz and Nadal are bout doubtful for Barcelona.

Munich has cleared up to 104. So, he should have been in. Bucharest to 101. But, he possibly would not have gone that far?

Nakashima made the entry at Munich by Thursday afternoon and was taken out of the Barcelona entry list. Sumit was shown as NEXT IN... But then he disappeared!

[prasen9]

Ah, so you can multiply enter, but if you are in the main draw of a smaller tournament, then you are taken out from the entry list of a higher rated one? This is a flaw. At least at the ATP level, why not allow players to remain in the main draw of the higher ranked tournament waiting list too and then withdraw from the lower money tournament to enter the higher one.

In this method, the higher rank players will get into the smaller ranked tournament if a vacancy happens but the lower ranked player will then get into a higher ranked tournament if the higher ranked tournament vacancy happened later. Ideally, the higher ranked player should play in the higher ranked tournament if they want to.

[Sanjay]

Stakes are probably too high for Sumit to Miss a direct entry in an ATP...Tournament..

In the 8-10Yrs of his career, I can't remember a single instance where in he has gained a direct entry in an ATP Tour Event..Excluding the Qualies or Wildcards.


Here's a golden opportunity that you just can't afford to miss..that people vie for, die for..Ask a 150th/200th or further ranked player..what it's like to get a direct entry in an ATP Tour Level Event..without playing the Qualies..

& Here,we have someone just pulling out of an ATP level tour event..

Unless Sumit is injured a bit or not feeling well or Unfit,it probably dose'nt make sense....As they say A bird in hand is worth two in a bush..

He's trying to play the Qualies of a Madrid but pulling out of Main Draw ATP Event .!!

If someone could just get the correct details..we could know the things..

I don't think Sumit had any direct entry to an ATP that he withdrew from. He was an Alternate or in the qualies as an Alternate.

[sameerph]

Prasen, the Madrid masters is later (week after from Apr 24th). It is Barcelona 500, Munich 250 and Bucharest 250 this week. Sumit was in the entry list for main draw for all three (but a few spots out. As of Thursday afternoon in Europe, he made the main draw at Munich and Barcelona, and he withdrew from both (we saw the list with withdrawal) and was in the Barcelona list as Next-in. Half hour later, we saw that his name disappeared from all three main draw list and main draw alt list. It was showing only in the qualifying entry list for Munich, as "withdrawn" (as you saw). Where did his name o suddenly from the main draw and main draw ALT lists?? Very strange.

From what I have observed from entry lists on Dart Tennis, they show it as withdrawn only when the player was in the original entry list and than withdraws, not when he later makes the main draw or is still in the alternates and withdrew. That is why he has been shown as withdrawn from qualifying entry list of Munich and not from other 2 lists.

In any case, from twitter entry list updates, he did get in both Munich and Bucharest and than shown as withdrawn. So, he is clearly not going to play in those 2.

And is not in alternate lists of Barcelona too. So, only way he can play next week is if he got a wild card at Barcelona. As you say, Horses' mouths are silent. So, lets wait and watch for next day or so for Barcelona main draw to appear.

[jayakris]

I don't think Sumit had any direct entry to an ATP that he withdrew from. He was an Alternate or in the qualies as an Alternate.

No Sajay, he made the entry by THU afternoon to both Bucharest and Munich, as the cuts dropped several spots into the ALT list for the main draws (pretty much the same players were in all three ALT lists). You can see that Nardi right behind him at #96 made Munich - which was when Sumit's name was taken out. Or he would have been there. The same thing at Bucharest. Then Barcelona remained, and he was NEXT IN. Half hour later his name went out of that ALT list and there was no indication anymore that he was in the list before! Disappeared into Ether!

[atula]

Absurd..Sounds really absurd, Unless & Until he has not got a Wildcard or is Injury prone..

[Omkara]

As a precaution he might pulled out. He had a few tough matches.

[jayakris]

Well, if he pulled out, it will be shown as "withdrawn" in the ALT lists. It is not shown that way now. Weird.

[prasen9]

Was this the behavior in multiple lists? Tennisforum used to have some lists and people commenting, etc.

[atula]

One small Consolation...Rohan Bopanna & Matthew Ebden will retain their No1Ranking Even though losing in their 1St Match at Monte Carlo ..As all the Rest of the Eight Seeds have Lost Except Granollers/Zeballos..

[Sanjay]

Rune barely beat Sumit.
World No 2 Sinner barely beat Rune.

Matches were on subsequent days. Yes, this is not transitive, but it gives an indication of Sumit's high level of play these days.

[arjun2761]

I don't think Sumit had any direct entry to an ATP that he withdrew from. He was an Alternate or in the qualies as an Alternate.

No Sajay, he made the entry by THU afternoon to both Bucharest and Munich, as the cuts dropped several spots into the ALT list for the main draws (pretty much the same players were in all three ALT lists). You can see that Nardi right behind him at #96 made Munich - which was when Sumit's name was taken out. Or he would have been there. The same thing at Bucharest. Then Barcelona remained, and he was NEXT IN. Half hour later his name went out of that ALT list and there was no indication anymore that he was in the list before! Disappeared into Ether!

My understanding is that as players withdraw from the main draw, the tournament organizers call up the folks sequentially in the alternate lists especially in the last week before the tournament (and apparently they also call up players who may be eligible for SEs). So, he must have been taken off from Munich and Bucharest ALT lists by that process (and also out of Munich Q which he was entered in). He would have been next-in at Barcelona (with his ER of 97) but I wonder if he was called and (i) either indicated that he wasn't interested and hence removed from ALT) or (ii) offered a WC. The WC scenario seems improbable to me given that there are so many good young Spanish players that they could give it to.