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Re: Paris Olympics 2024

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So you guys knew about most of these medalists from the other countries in advance. Thanks.
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Are para archers allowed to compete in regular Olympics? If so, this would be the iron lady.

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I think the regular Olympics is open. So, they could. But, there may be rules of what you can use to shoot or not in archery. As long as the para archers can follow the rules, then it should be fine. Often, the para scores are worse than the regular scores and so the athletes may not qualify.
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Updated the first post on qualifiers. We have 28 olympic qualifers now - 13 in shooting, 9 in Athletics, 4 in boxing, 1 in wrestling and mens hockey team.

Sinhombre, we probably need to update shooting projections after Asian championships. I think I would put both Tomar and at least one of the shooters in womens 10M Air rifle ( either of Mehuli, Tilottama ) in 30% category just behind Samra who is 50% category and downgrade Esha Singh to 10% along with Manu Bhakar. Both mixed teams in rifle and pistol can be in 10% and all other qualified shooters in 5%.
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Manu should be in the 100% category—just a different kind. No points for guessing right. :devil:
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sameerph wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:20 pm Ok. I am ignoring the other thread which we had opened on pre-mortem and open a new one like we did last time.

And as of now these are the list of qualifiers as of now-

Athletics (9)
Neeraj Chopra (Men's Javelin throw),
Kishore Jena (Men's Javelin throw)
Akshdeep Singh (Men's 20km race walk),
Priyanka Goswami (Women's 20km race walk),
Vikas Singh (Men's 20km race walk),
Paramjeet Bisht (Men's 20km race walk),
Murali Sreeshankar (Men's long jump),
Avinash Sable (Men's 3000m steeplechase)
Parul Chaudhary (Women's 3000m steeplechase)

Shooting (13)
Bhowneesh Mendiratta-Men’s Trap
Rudrankksh Patil-Men’s 10M Air Rifle
Swapnil Kusale-Men's 50m rifle 3 positions
Akhil Sheoran-Men's 50m rifle 3 positions
Mehuli Ghosh-Women's 10m air rifle shooting
Sift Kaur Samra-Women's 50m rifle 3 positions
Rajeshwari Kumari-Women's trap
Sarabjot Singh- Mens 10M Air pistol
Arjun Babuta- Men's 10m air rifle
Tilottama Sen - Women's 10m air rifle
Manu Bhaker - Women's 25m pistol
Anish Bhanwala - Men's 25m rapid fire pistol
Shriyanka Sadangi - Women’s 50m rifle 3 positions

Boxing (4)
Nikhat Zareen-Women's 50kg Boxing
Preeti Pawar-Women's 54kg Boxing
Parveen Hooda-Women's 57kg Boxing
Lovlina Borgohain-Women's 75kg

Wrestling (1)
Antim Panghal-Women's 53kg

Hockey (1)
Mens team

So, total of 28 qualified including hockey team.
Archery (1)
Dhiraj Bommadevara
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Updated in first post.

Dhiraj Bommadevara is a very good qualification shooter. He was second in qualifying at world championships with a 683, was seventh in Asian games with 675 but had a missed arrow, so would have been 684 or so with that and in top 3, was 4th in Asian championships here with 682 behind 3 Koreans.

So, if he continues with those kind of scores, he will finish in top 5 at Olympics too and get a good draw but his match play has not been that good. Lost in PQF at both world championships and Asian games in shoot offs and in QF at Asian championships. He will need to improve on that great deal to hope for a medal in Olympics.

More chance if we can get the mens team in. There are 2 more chances for us to, 3 teams get in at final world qualification tournament in June 2024 and 2 more thru world ranking route. We are currently ranked third in the world behind Korea and China. China has not qualified yet.
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The men’s team with Atanu back should qualify. Both Atanu and Tarundeep are also reasonably good qualification archers.

Dhiraj will lose in the first tight contest at the Olympics.
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True, as I said whatever little chance we have is in mens team. Because the field is smaller with only 12 team, with a good qualification round, a team can get a first round bye and straight go to QF's. Then, you need to win the QF and than one of the next 2 matches to get a medal. Not easy at all considering how our archers have been doing in crunch situations but just a little hope that all 3 archers would not choke.
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Dec 1 update

Badminton multiple BWF tournaments since last update
Chirag / Satwik - men's doubles badminton 0.7->0.5 (poor results except China Open)
Lakshya Sen - men's singles badminton 0.1->0.01 (6 first round defeats in a row, he likely will not qualify)
Treesa/Gayatri - women's doubles badminton 0.01->0 (will not qualify)

No change for HSP and Sindhu. Sindhu was playing top-10 badminton before her injury and will be uphill for her to finish as a top-8 seed when she returns.

Badminton changed from 1.16->0.86 (-0.3)

Athletics nationals
Kishore Jena - men’s javelin 0.1->0.05 (poor performance at the Nationals)

Athletics changed from 1.15->1.1 (-0.05)

Archery Bangkok olympic qualifiers
men's archery team 0.1->0.05 (failed to qualify for the Olympics in Bangkok)
mixed archery team 0.01->0 (likely won't qualify)
women's archery team 0.01->0 (likely won't qualify)

Archery changed from 0.13->0.06(-0.07)

Hockey Asian champions trophy
women's hockey 0.01->0.05 (still to qualify but very comfortable win in the Asian Champions trophy)

Hockey changed from 0.51->0.55(+0.04)

Shooting Asian shooting qualifiers in Korea and ISSF world finals in Doha
This is new format with events instead of individuals

Top-5/6 in the world or 50/50 medal chances - 50% or 0.5 medals
women's 50m rifle 3 positions (unchanged - Simra remains a world class qualifier on current form and was excellent in Korea)

Decent chance to medal if stars align - 30% or 0.3 medals
men's 50m rifle 3 positions (0.1->0.3 Aishwary and Akhil are both in pretty decent qualification form right now and we should expect one finalist)
mixed 10m air rifle team (0.05->0.3 we will field 2 teams with some good qualification shooters)

Can medal with a PB / best performance - 10% or 0.1 medals
men's 10m rifle (unchanged - Aishwary might be our best shooter in this as well, Rudrankksh's form has fallen off though we did get our 2nd quota place with Arjun Babuta)
women's 10m air rifle (0.05->0.1 both quotas achieved, Elavenil and Mehuli are in decent qualification form)

Longshots - 5% or 0.05 medals
women’s 10m air pistol (0.3->0.05 Esha's form has fallen off, no quota, only quota is from 25m)
men's 25m pistol (0->0.05 serial choker Anish with a quota in Korea and a medal at ISSF World Cup finals)
women's 25m pistol (0.1->0.05 Manu with the only quota, she is still a world class qualifier and very poor finalist)
men's 10m pistol (0->0.05 Sarabjot with a quota and he showed decent qualification form in Korea and Doha)
mixed 10m pistol team (unchanged until we can field 2 teams)

Shooting changed from 1.3->1.55(+0.25)

Total medals = 7.02 --> 6.89 (-0.13)
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sameer - I don't think any other sports had an event which should make us update.
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Yes, Sinhombre. Agree to most of it.

I am still upbeat on Satwik-Chirag as they have sort of shown that they get pumped up for big events although they do not do as well in tour events regularly. They are among top 3 pairs in the world right now when they play well.

But, overall only 1 medal seems possible in badminton- Prannoy being a long shot and Sindhu even longer shot. Tresa-Gayatri ( or Ashwini-Tanisha) will still qualify but unlikely to be anywhere close to medal barring major reversal of form.

In shooting, I am tempted to put both mens and womens 10M air rifle in 30% category - there are 3 or so contenders in either of them who can make final on a given day. - Aishwaryi, Rudrankhsh, Arjun in men and Mehuli,Ramita, Elavenil, Tilottama in women. All of them will push each other for selection.
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It seems AFI won't recognise results achieved in meets abroad where it has not entered Indian athletes for the purpose of Olympic qualification. It also seems, it won't be satisfied with just entry standards and could want the athletes to get into the rankings also.
There is no clarity yet about the guidelines issued. AFI AGM is on at Amritsar today and tomorrow. They also has a discussion about Paris Olympics qualification and 2024 calendar etc yesterday. Perhaps we can expect something by tomorrow.
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/athletic ... 591512.ece
The selection guidelines for Paris:
https://indianathletics.in/wp-content/u ... 2024-1.pdf
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Vishnu Saravanan qualified for olympics in Sailing, our first one in sailing to do so.

Updated the qualified Indian athletes in first post, a total of 39 qualified so far- 19 in shooting, 12 in athletics, 4 in boxing, 1 each in wrestling, Hockey (team), Archery and Sailing.
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