India in South Africa, December 2023

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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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prasen9 wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:40 am Countries across the world don't really have as many A-team tours. People who have failed in a lot of chances need to be out. We are sure they cannot cut it. If we don't have A-teams, we should choose the best domestic performers and give them a chance. It will take us longer without the A-team tours, e.g., we will have more Gill-types who will fail but keeping the old deadwood is useless for sure.
This is where BCCI needs to use its clout or let these fringe players play in counties in other countries rather than the Indian domestics. Not sure what’s BCCI’s beef with it.
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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BCCI has come down to 2 four day games in India A system, out of which 1 four day game gets accompanied by seniors to
acclimatize conditions in SENA by neglecting tour / warm up games, thus damaging chances of fringe players who are working hard in domestic. If the seniors doesn't play tour games they should'nt be harsh to fringe players by including themselves for India A
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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Too many logical options being presented here but that’s not BCCI’s strength. When you have politicians rule almost every sport organization in the country, which is clearly counter to the world federations’ charters, this is what you get.

Have you watched the parody of Starc making fun of his mind boggling IPL contract and mocking the Indian cricket system? Check it out. It’s funny.

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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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All of you are assuming BCCI cares about Indian cricket. They just care about making money.
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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BCCI is in talks with other board officials in bringing Champions League T20 back
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^^More death to test cricket plans.
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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prasen9 wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:17 pm We need to get Easwaran in the team in place of Gill. Gill is useless when the ball moves.

Avesh Khan is in the side. So, will it be Avesh, PK, or Mukesh? Unless Shardul can show in the nets that he can bowl line and length and bat well, I'd pick Jadeja to replace Shardul straight up.
I would have preferred Sarfaraz in the middle order -- probably in place of Shreyas. But Sarfaraz isn't in the squad, so he can't be included. Just for the record, Sarfaraz made 68 in the first India A 'test', and 34 in the second -- but also made a century in the intra-squad match. So he deserves a look-in. Pradosh Ranjan Paul (the Odiya who plays for TN) made a massive century in the first India A 'test', but was dropped for the second :kookoo: ).

But I agree with prasen9 (for once :-) ) - Abhimanyu Easwaran should come into the side in place of Gill, and should open with the skipper, with Jaiswal coming in at #3.

I think the bowlers should be Bumrah, Siraj and Mukesh for pace, and Jadeja and Ashwin to add some spin to the attack. Newlands will be a batting paradise, according to Alan Donald.
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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Jaiswal, Rohit, Easwaran, Kohli, KL Rahul, Shreyas, R Jadeja,
M Kumar, J Bumrah, Avesh Khan, Siraj

No matter how much run feast is in Newland tracks, on many occassion it has been found, the track suitable for fast bowler and the team ended up in making huge mistake by playing two spinners. There is two spinners in only in that top wicket takers list in Newlands and two are left arm spinners.
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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Our batters cannot score more than 300 anywhere. Even if it is a flat airport tarmac.

Easwaran, Jaiswal, Rohit, Kohli, Iyer, Rahul, Jadeja, Ashwin/Thakur, Bumrah, Siraj, PK/Mukesh/Avesh

Avesh is the best bowler - but slower than the other two and not as bouncy.

PK is most suited to conditions but raw and has no experience.

Mukesh is experienced but is a mleh bowler, but may be fine.

Truly hard for me to choose among the three.

It is better to take the runs Ashwin or Thakur will score than the 100-1 bowling from our 4th pacer. And, as a matter of principle. We need to show that if you do not take your batting seriously, pacers will not be given chances just for bowling.
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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If anyone has forced him to return in Ranji, its a worst decision. He has let down the team by not including himself in longest format when team needed him. UP has produced top quality pacers, they should groom young players then going back to oldies


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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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At present Ranji trophy is a club level inter state / UTs tournament, where performances are not recognized. Not only him, i also urge retired cricketers to play this damaged useless tournament. Under 15s & Coach Behar Cup is more competative then this tournament
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:22 am If anyone has forced him to return in Ranji, its a worst decision. He has let down the team by not including himself in longest format when team needed him. UP has produced top quality pacers, they should groom young players then going back to oldies

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Fantastic. The better players we have in Ranjis the better. Young players who cannot cut it should not be given freebies. Then, they don't learn, don't compete, take things for granted and don't improve. See Gill in tests, Umran and Avesh in T20Is, etc. Competition is the best way to improve quality. Assuming the selectors think Bhuvi is better than the next in line, playing him also means that the opposing teams will face stiffer competition. UP deserves to make its choices so that it can win. It has no obligations to the Indian team. They should do what is best for U.P. If they think that there is no quality talent who is working hard knocking on the door, it is better that Bhuvi gets a go than some idiot who will take things for granted and not work hard.

Rohit Sharma cannot play the short ball on bouncy pitches. He averages 13 in South Africa (10 innings) and in arguably the best batting pitches in Australia, he averages around 30-31. This is poor. Perhaps his last chance to at least score a 50 against RSA in RSA. Of course, in Indian pitches, he averages 66 and 58 against the hapless West Indians on their slower pitches and cupcake bowling.
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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What a click bait.. except for the title, no where does it talk about some one forcing him play
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Re: India in South Africa, December 2023

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Ridiculous things happening at Cape Town. SA out for 55 in 23 overs with Siraj taking 6.
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