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Re: ACC Asia Cup

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Hardik, Hooda, Pant, SAY all failed. The oldies scored. SAY did not waste many balls nor did Hardik. But, Pant and Hooda were awful. To their defence, we are playing with a long tail. So, they needed to be careful. But at this stage you need to be able to hit and not get out. We have to solve the long tail. If DLC was playing instead of Bishnoi, I think we would have seen Hooda hit a bit more. That should not be an excuse for failing however.

Kohli refusing a single in the last over and making a mess of it. Sad. Bishnoi salvaged things a bit. If Kohli had gotten out a tad earlier, we should have scored 190.
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Bishnoi was lucky to score those boundaries. Both of them
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Chahal very poor
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Arshdeep is a shit fielder. Bhuvi our experienced matchwinner giving 14 -15 in crucial over.
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SaniaFan wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:40 pm Bishnoi was lucky to score those boundaries. Both of them
But, that is the point. You need to take the risks and throw your arm. Sometimes the ball will go to the fielder but by random chance more often than not, it will not. Whether it is a classy cover drive for six or a top-edged hook going awry for six, you get the same number of runs. That Virat did not throw his bat around was criminal. Rohit gave us the mindset by saying 180 is a good score on any wicket. Yes, but this wicket was more docile and you do not just want par scores, you want to take the game beyond the opposition.

But, all said and done, Arshdeep dropped the match.

Chahal continues to be the worst (most-expensive) leg-spinner who plays regularly for any of the top-10 teams or so.

What's up with all these wides? They need to do something to avoid these freebies.
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:38 pm Arshdeep is a shit fielder. Bhuvi our experienced matchwinner giving 14 -15 in crucial over.
anyway that was a good match-up
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The most terrible part of this Asia Cup is that we are equal to Pak in this format.

In terms of who was responsible for loss (in order)
1. Chahal - all the 3 other spinners did really well. He is a terrible fielder and batsman, if he is also going to be the worst spinner amongst 4, there is no place for him. He has a history of failing in big tournaments.
2. Hardik - failed in both departments today.
3. SKY + Pant - 3rd failure in a row for SKY against Pakis (starting to think he might be a choker as well) and Pant is not a middle order T20 batsman, never has and never will be.
4. Arshdeep - don't want to blame him for the catch drop but it did prove decisive.
5. Kohli - another 50 but these 130 S/R knocks batting first are always going to put pressure when bowling. Can't have one guy batting almost half the balls with an intent to get to 160 in 20 overs.

Realistically, what can we change.

1. Drop Chahal - the mental and physical midget will never amount to a serious player in big competitions. Would rather play Axar who can bat, field and bowl as well.
2. Drop Pant the MO batsman - I don't have any options here. All of our batsmen want to play in the top order to improve their averages. Rahul Tewatia is a hack but he is the only one with a decent record.
3. If you can't trust Hooda to bowl, he should not be playing.
4. Move Kohli to open and play SKY at 3 - this can go terribly but we need to go from 50/50 against Pakis to 80/20 if we want to win the WC.
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Re: ACC Asia Cup

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The whole match looked murky and with all indicators towards being fixed.
Why were the fielders so inside the boundary rope...
Why were they saving 1 run and giving away 4’s & 6’s..
Why Hooda was not even given 1 over..when they had left handers...
Dolly catches being dropped..
Just looked deliberate poor fielding by Hooda, Axar-Surya; and Arshdeep
And finally.. Babar called "Tail" in toss but Ravi Shastri said "Heads is the call" and then even match referee wasn't clear. They went with Pakistan win the toss.
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Experienced bowlers have gone for plenty. How Bhuvi can't ball a single yorker in that over? Short ball tactics was least seen despite there was good bounce in the pitch.Its clear now, we can't play with 5 bowlers, 6th option is required and today we missed 3rd pacer. Chahal out, Axar in. Hooda out Chahar/ Avesh in only the changes for next match.Bringing Ashwin back to T20I cricket is one of the worst decision made in recent time.
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Bringing Avesh in would be confirmation indeed that things are fixed.

Sin Hombre, Pant never will be a MO bat in T20 is a bit harsh. Never has - true.

Kohli played relatively well. But, the last over was pathetic. He should have retired hurt. Before the last over, he was in the 140s. At one point he was in the 145, etc. He slowed down!
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Batsman already guessed the ball will be delivered outside the offstump and he shifts his whole stance towards offstump before the ball was delivered. Plenty of time was there for Bhuvi to change the idea of bowling slow ball that was made by the batter in his arc for hitting six

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Pakistan pacers bowls 150 kph in international cricket and our pacers bowls useless 150 kph in IPL :D
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Chahal is struggling. Would like to see Axar in Chahal's place. DK back in place of Pant. Avesh in for Hooda
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I'd like to see Axar in to strengthen the batting so that Kohli does not have to give up singles, etc. He should have trusted the tail to throw their bats but whatever. If Kohli cannot trust the tail, then the tail needs strengthening.

Avesh is proven crap. Hooda may be unproven crap but he has batted well in the chances he has gotten. So, he stays in. We cannot get Avesh in and lengthen the tail that we just shortened by getting Axar for Chahal. After we get rid of our the most expensive "regular" spinner in the world, we should not bring back the worst pacer to have debuted and gotten 15 matches for India.

DK for Pant. Maybe. Karthik has not done much lately but Pant has never done anything in T20Is. So, choose whoever.
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Poor start
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