19th Asian Games Hangzhou 2023

[Atithee]

Jay, too late! The bronze medal match has already been played.

[prasen9]

I like both versions. Perhaps like test cricket a bit more. But, I don't have time for the whole match though I'd follow the results/stats/events in a match later on by sampling.

Baseball is actually more simple. You don't need the wickets. So, you have these imaginary wickets. The caught out, etc. are the same. You need a smaller ground technically because the back part does not yield runs. The field can be crazy sized. That is, you can play it in any "gully" or any irregular shaped ground. Batters don't have to think of moving their feet to the line of the ball etc. It is see ball, hit ball. Now, of course, to hit the ball you need some amount of footwork, etc.

Maybe some of this should be moved to the Cricket Thread, Jay? Or some other sports discussion thread? I am not so sure where this belongs and not so sure it does not belong to the Asiad thread either but just bringing the topic of potential off-topic up ...

[srini]

The TV replay angles for a reverse swing delivery or any swing for that matter, and a defensive stroke sent to boundary while being chased by the fielder all the way should be a sight to watch who ever the beholder is

Unless T-20 can somehow invent ways to create fair competetion between batsmen and bowlers by testing the technical skills of batsmen,i won't be enticed to watch the game.I watched only IPL-1 and then done with all T-20.

Regd popularizing a game, why do we even care to popularize/globalize the piddly islander's game? If we love the game, we just play it or dump it.
If we ever want to do any marketing stuff, let's focus our energies in popularizing Yoga as an Olympic sport or globalize Kabbadi. Pro Kabaddi has been so successful with proven TV viewership that Pro Kabaddi league for Women is planned for this year. Kabaddi has massive potential to be a global sport!

[prasen9]

Yoga is already popular. We need to push it to be recognized a la gymnastics. Kabaddi, we have to popularize in our own country first.

Wrt fairness between batters and bowlers, it depends upon how you measure it. On most balls, the bowler wins because the batter scores 1 run or less. Sports does not need to be fair to each member of a team. Just fair to both teams. We can never make cricket fair without drastically changing it. Bowlers bat and bowl whereas batters only bat and do not need to bowl. Etc.

[prajgolf]

Asian Games Selection Trials 2023- Golf

Bengaluru duo Pranavi Urs and amateur Avani Prashanth tied for the first place at 10-under 206 and will join Aditi Ashok for the 2023 Asian Games.

In the men's section Khalin Joshi completed a wire-to-wire to win with a final round of 4-under 68 that gave him a total of 13-under 203 for 54 holes. SSP Chawrasia who played at the 2016 Olympics also shot 68 for a 11-under 205 for the second place.

Khalin Joshi and SSP Chawrasia will join Anirban Lahiri and Shubhankar Sharma in the men's team.

2022 selection was cancelled and a fresh trials was conducted this week for 2023 Games.

[sameerph]

After trials which were held this week ( where only those in top 10 in rankings were exempted - Prannoy, Sindhu and Satwik-Chirag), Indian badminton team for Asian games is announced.

Team-

Men’s singles: HS Prannoy and Kidambi Srikanth (individual/team), Lakshya Sen and Mithun Manjunath (team)

Men’s doubles: Satwiksairaj Rankireddy/Chirag Shetty and Dhruv Kapila/MR Arjun (individual/team)

Women’s singles: PV Sindhu and Ashmita Chaliha (individual/team), Anupama Upadhyaya and Malvika Bansod (team)

Women’s doubles: Gayatri Gopichand/Treesa Jolly and Ashwini Ponnappa/Tanisha Crasto (individual/team)

Mixed doubles: Rohan Kapoor /N Sikki Reddy and Sai Pratheek K/Tanisha Crasto

Big news is Lakshya Sen losing out on a place in individual event which is a setback to him considering his performance last year and Saina Nehwal is probably missing out playing big events for the first time after many years. Looks like her career is winding down bow although she has still not officially retired.

[prasen9]

Prannoy and Srikanth deserve to be the individuals. Saina skipped the trials due to injury. That is bad. I think we should not go with just trials based selections. Or if someone has genuine injuries, maybe opportunities should be provided to them to play a challenge match against the selected. It is tough to do this and be fair. The Asian Games are in September.

[sameerph]

Agreed and it seems the deadline for giving in entries is somewhere in August. Maybe due to busy international season ahead, they had to hold trials now. But, they need not have named the 2 singles players also now. For instance , in mens singles, Prannoy, Srikanth and Lakshya are quite close together in terms of ability. If the form of Laskshya turns around and he shows results in international circuit by August, they should keep that leeway to include him ahead of Prannoy/Srikanth. Same for other categories.

[srini]

India has always been placed 7-8 in medals at Asian games from times immemorial, can that change now and we finally move to 4,5 positions or do you expect we are not there yet?

[Atithee]

Not expecting a change.

[jayakris]

I think we have finished 6th once, no? But yeah, 7th or 8th has been generally our best showings, but we have been down to 9th and 10th too, I think.

[sameerph]

Ok, found the post from the 5 years back after last Asiad-

These are the top 10 countries in medal tally -

Conntry - no. of golds

1. China - 132
2. Japan - 75
3. Korea - 49
4. Indonesia - 31
5. Uzbekistan - 21
6. Iran - 20
7. Chinese Taipei - 17
8. India - 15
9. Kazakhstan - 15
10. DPR Korea -12

And if only olympic sports are counted then the tally would be like this -

1. China -111
2. Japan - 63
3. Korea - 42
4. India - 14 golds , 21 silver
5. Uzbekistan - 14 golds, 20 silver
6. Iran - 14 golds, 15 sliver
7. Chinsese Taipei - 13 golds
8. DPR Korea - 12 golds
9. Baharain - 12 golds
10. Kazakhstan - 11 golds

We were already 4th in olympic sportsl. Actually Indonesia added a lot of local sports at last home Asiad. So, 4th place achieved thru such a way has no meaning.

Anyway, even if we go by this, all these Indonesia golds will drop now and China is the host now. So, even if they have added some local sports does not matter for 4th/5th place.

22-25 golds will be enough for 4th place. So, we need to add 5-7 more golds to get there. There is pretty good chance to add at least 1 in cricket ( maybe 2), 1 in Chess, and need to add some in athletics/shooting to get there. Looks possible.

[Atithee]

DPR Korea got 12 golds. We could get only 15?

[sameerph]

DPR Korea got 12 golds. We could get only 15?

Yes, I think we have been just above the level of DPR Korea in Asiads. They are really good in weightlifting where they picked up 8 of 12 golds. I think they were banned from weighlifting later due to doping. So, if they are not allowed in Weightlifing I do not see them go beyond 5-6 golds in this Asiad.

[jayakris]

India will have the men and women football team take part this time, after the ministry made an exception on the Asian rankings. We look for an Asian top-8 ranking to send a team but are sending the #18 men's team and the #11 women's team. The group draws came out today. Details are in the football national team thread (let us discuss Asiad football there, or we may make an Asiad football thread if needed, later)