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Re: Manas Dhamne thread

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sameerph wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:49 pm Good win by Manas and good to see that he came thru a long 3 setter. In the recent past in these kind of long matches, he has had fitness issues and he either retired or lost the third set cheaply.
Just as you felt, Manas ran out of gas after the long 3.5 hour match yesterday and a close first set today. He was down a break at 0-3 to start but out the break back and went toe-to-toe with Piccione for 3 sets till 5-5 in the first set when he even had a 30-40 BP... But from then on, he was out of it, as Piicione stepped on the gas. Manas won only 6 points out of the next 40 points. 57 06 loss.

That can happen to 16 year olds, especially on clay, when you grind for 4.5 hours within 24 hours. But another fruitful pro outing with 3 wins and a loss, and one more ATP point for the boy.

[R2] (Q) Manas Dhamne (IND,1342) l. (8) Andrea Picchione (ITA,477), 57 06
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Re: Manas Dhamne thread

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Manas is again playing in qualifying of M25 at Santa Margherita di Pula, Italy. Today, he won Q1 against Matteo Mesaglio (ITA,NR) 75 61.

Manas has a tough match against top seed in qualies, Luigi Sorrentino (ITA,860) in final qualifying round.
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Re: Manas Dhamne thread

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Picchione won the title last week so Manas ran into an inform player.

Manas's final qualifying match is being streamed live on ITF Tennis. The kid seems have a solid game, has played the net points well but lacks a good serve. Ofcourse he is still very young and should be able to develop it over time but for now he is having a tough time holding serve.

6 breaks of serve so far. Score is 3-3 with Manas to serve. Seems like whoever manages to hold serve will win :p
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Manas is up 63 33... And he wins it in a match-tiebreaker, after getting broken in the 7th game of the second set.

[Q2] Manas Dhamne (IND,1344) d. (1) Luigi Sorrentino (ITA,860), 46 64 [10-8]
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He wins! 64 46 10-8
His drop shots amazed me the most! Perhaps more so because I have not seen many Indians do it well enough on the circuit.
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Re: Manas Dhamne thread

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Prakharulz wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:21 am His drop shots amazed me the most! Perhaps more so because I have not seen many Indians do it well enough on the circuit.
Same here. "Not many" is quite gracious. In fact, no other Indian hits drop shots well at all. Manas is the only one I have seen doing it well consistently. Amazing.

His shots look very smooth and effortless. He moves very well too. Need to develop more power, but he is a 16 year old after all.
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At M25 in Santa Margherita di Pula, Italy (clay)

[R1] (Q) Manas Dhamne (IND,1344) vs. Kai Wehnelt (GER,602)
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Good to see Manas beat a 800 ranked player. With his loss to an inform 400+ player last week (who went on to win the title), Manas's game seems to be showing significant improvement.

Will be curious to see how he does in the junior slams this year if he plays them.
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Re: Manas Dhamne thread

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Manas lost in first round of main draw.

At M25 in Santa Margherita di Pula, Italy (clay)

[R1] (Q) Manas Dhamne (IND,1344) l. Kai Wehnelt (GER,602) 57 26

So, unfortunately no points for getting a couple of decent wins in the qualifying.
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Manas got a wildcard to the qualies at the Challenger 75 in Francavilla al Mare, Italy (clay) starting on Sunday!...

He was initially expected to play the 7th seed Omni Kumar (USA,365) in the Q1 but the later draw posted today by ATP lists an Alternate player (to be determined). It seems like Omni withdrew. He had retired in his QF match at the Italy M25 this week so, that may be the reason. As of now, one other guy from the ALT list (Arnaboldi) has been listed elsewhere inn the draw, and the next-in who may end up playing on Sunday against Manas look like #666 Zgirovski, #707 Carboni, #646 Juarez and #797 Berretini. I suppose one of them will get there and play Manas on Sunday. Let us see. Anyway, a ood opportunity for Manas. Not sure if he is ready to get two wins at the challenger qualies level and make the main draw.
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Manas beats Tatsumo Ito (#765) 6-3 6-1 to register his first challenger level win. Up next, a tough match against #315 Giannessi.
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^^^ This is a challenger qualifier win. He will need to beat #315 in Q2 to make challenger main draw. Not easy but can be done!

Tatsuma Ito is now a 35 year old player who is lowly ranked but was in the top 100 for some time and in the 100-200 range for a large part of his prime. So, beating the cagey veteran is a good experience for Manas!
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I watched the match. Manas was so fluid in his shot-making. Amazingly good for a 16 year old. Here is the recording:

https://www.atptour.com/en/atp-challeng ... 4/7707/all
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I watched the first five minutes so far. Manas needs to learn to hit the ball flatter. In the portion I watched, every single balls sits up. This way, he will never rush the opponent and catch them running for their life to dictate the point. In the process, he will become the retrieving kind relying on opponents’ errors to win points. He needs to fix this now before it becomes his comfort zone.

Jay, your thoughts? I’ll watch the rest of the match to see if this was just the early nervousness.
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Watch the whole thing though. I think his loopy balls are deliberate. He has the flat shots too. He seems to mix in shots seamlessly. Ito had a lot of trouble hitting some of the high bounces. I felt that Manas is fully in control of what he is doing and has an array of shots to go to. In fact I saw his M15 match last week too, and it was a bit different. He hit a few topnotch drop shots there. No drop shots here. He seems to just hit the shots that are needed. Uncanny for a 16 year old.

Of course, I need to see more to make more conclusions. Right now, I feel he is fundamentally quite solid. Not too many gaps in his game, as I see it now

(The serve needs to get stronger, and that is an age thing... But check out at, I think 6-3 2-0, from 0-30 down, how well he served including an ace)
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