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Re: Prarthana Thombare thread

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Interesting name. Polous in Greek means son-of. So, grammatikopolous means son of letter writer. The word grammatik actually has Greek origins meaning the (art of) writing (of) letters. Which then crept into Latin and changed its meaning slightly, I would presume. But, the morpheme gram is in telegram (in English), i.e., letters send via "tele" means.

So the daughter of the son of the letter writer wins a tennis tournament! Anti-casteism at its best, I suppose. :-) :Offtopic:
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Apparently "Thombar" means fodder for horses, and the caste/family name "Thombare" actually comes from the family having the contract for growing the fodder and selling it to Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj and later Maratha peshwas (as I see on an obscure web page).

What are "Ms. Prayer Horsefoddermaker" and "Ms. Vigorous Letterdaughter" doing in tennis?

But congrats to Prarthana! We all forget her all the time. Mucho kudos for how she has made such a fine doubles career for herself! :notworthy:
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Another doubles title for Prarthana. Seeded 2nd with Arianne Hartono (INA) as partner, she won the title at the W50 in Shenzen, CHN. They beat Ji-Hee Choi (KOR)/ Beatrice Gumulya (INA), 64 61, then Rutuja and YeXin Ma (CHN) in the R2, 63 63. The SF against the 3rd seed Chia Yi Tsao (TPE) and Wushuang Zheng (CHN) was tough, 75 46 [10-5] but the final against the 4th seeds Madeleine Brooks (GBR) and Eudice Chong (HKG) was easier - 62 63

That is back-to-back titles for her, following the W75 title at Spit (Croatia) with Valentini Grammatikopoulou (GRE) two weeks ago. 125 points from the two titles have come at the right time, as she loses some 100+ points from 3 events in the US last year from this week.
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Not a whole lot of news from Prarthana since the Shenzen title in April. She had some QFs at the Tokyo, Gifu, Guimares and Ilkley W100s (Ilkley with Ankita and the others with Arianne Hartono (NED) with whom she won at Shenzen). She also had a final at the Zagreb W75 with Emily Appleton (GBR) in May. She is back with Arianne this week at the W75 in Porto, POR, as top seeds. They have reached the semis without playing a match, as they had an R1 Bye, and then a walkover in the QF today. See the Portugal ITFs thread for scores.
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Never have I ever once seen Prarthana winning at the WTA level. Sadly, I think she will continue her career at the ITFs and that’s where it will end despite being ranked so close to making the WTA 125Ks here and there. :-(

At WTA125 Barranquilla Challenger, Colombia (Hard)

R1 Prarthana Thombare/ En Shuo Liang (TWN) 2-6 4-6 (1) Quinn Gleason (USA)/ Ingrid Gamarra Martins (BRA)
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Prarthana is back with her regular partner at the ITF W100 in Incheon, S.Korea (Hard)

[R1] (3) Arianne Hartono (NED)/ Prarthana G Thombare (IND) d. BoYoung Jeong (KOR)/ HwiWon Wi (KOR), 63 62
[QF] (3) Arianne Hartono (NED)/ Prarthana G Thombare (IND) vs Momoko Kobori (JPN)/ Ayano Shimizu (JPN)
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[QF] (3) Arianne Hartono (NED)/ Prarthana G Thombare (IND) d. Momoko Kobori (JPN)/ Ayano Shimizu (JPN), 64 26 [11-9]
[SF] (3) Arianne Hartono (NED)/ Prarthana G Thombare (IND) l. (1) Qianhui Tang (CHN)/ Wushuang Zheng (CHN), 46 16
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Wonder why Prarthana has not played in 6 weeks...
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She is back this week with the same partner whom she had partnered before taking a break and they started with a nice upset win in first round in China.

At WTA 250 Jianxi Open, Jiujiang, China (Hard)

[R1] Arianne Hartono (NED)/ Prarthana G Thombare (IND) d. (3) Anna Siskova (CZE) / Angelica Moratelli (ITA) 75 46 10-3
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Whoa, that is a big upset win for PrarTono! Prarthana moved up to 12 spots to #137 in doubles ranking, closer to her career high of 125.


(Okay, I just made up a name PrarTono for the team, sort of like how Prarthana's name might be said if she were a Bengali.)
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Added the place name Jiujiung to the title in Sameer's post above. This WTA is being held at Jiujiung. I guess China has so much of good infrastructure in all kinds of places now. I had not even heard of this city Jiujiung, a city of just below 1 million population, and they are doing a WTA 250 there. It is like doing a WTA 250 event in a city like Kota (Rajasthan) or Madurai (TN)...

I mean, even a tournament of 250 level has not been held in India in quite a while (men or women)! It tells you how far China has gone ahead in tennis, while AITA and Indian Governments have been sleeping for the last 3-4 decades.
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jayakris wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:37 am (Okay, I just made up a name PrarTono for the team, sort of like how Prarthana's name might be said if she were a Bengali.)
This is the Ravi Shastri error, Jay. For a long time he could not say Kolkata properly. The Bengali version would be Prarthona. What is an "a" (first vowel in the alphabet) in Sanskrit or Hindi gets a bit of an "o" sound but not what is an "aa" (second vowel in the alphabet). So, it would be simple. You use an "a"-kar as we say in Bangla if you write the vowel down in Sanskrit or Hindi. That remains an aa in Bangla. The first a in Prarthana is also an aa and that remains, but the second a in the name is really no symbol in Sanskrit and Hindi and that gets transcribed as an "a" in English. Bangalis also do not like so many harsh shounds (consonents) one after another. So, we transcribe that short "a" as an "o" more or less - a short o nontheless in between several vowels. Anyway, the point is all "a"s in English do not become "o"s. Now, that you know which "a"s to turn to "o"s when speaking to Bengalis or while pronouncing Bengali names, you will get your "o"s correct. :-)

"t .. h .. n" - too many consonents one after another. So, we put an o and make it "thon". When there is a proper vowel written, we have no problems and don't change it.
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^^^ Ah, okay. Makes sense. I actually thought it might be Praarthona in Bengali.
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The first a and the last a are both the same vowels - the long a or aa. We don't elongate the first a in her name that much more than the last a generally. Of course, for emphasis, to change the meaning a bit, one can stress on any vowel more but that is not standard but more to send a message. If find the Italians are like us too in some sense. They don't like things ending on a consonant and often add a vowel at the end for words ending in hard consonants.
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jayakris wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:44 am Added the place name Jiujiung to the title in Sameer's post above. This WTA is being held at Jiujiung. I guess China has so much of good infrastructure in all kinds of places now. I had not even heard of this city Jiujiung, a city of just below 1 million population, and they are doing a WTA 250 there. It is like doing a WTA 250 event in a city like Kota (Rajasthan) or Madurai (TN)...
Jay, as per Wikipedia, Jiujiang has a population of around 4.6 million-

Jiujiang

A bit confused about this as we if we see top cities in China on Wiki it does not list Jiujiang in that range.

If it is 4.6 million it quite big.
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