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Re: Sumit Nagal thread

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Sanjay wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:24 pm Does anyone know how the points work for each level of the tournament?
Here is the main draw PDF for ATP 1000 Monte Carlo Masters... The prize money and points are at the bottom..

If you are a qualifier and play the main draw first round, you get 30 points (If you win the Q1, you get 16 pts). About $7K for playing Q1 and about $14K for playing Q2. So, good money for Sumit. He is no longer hurting for money like a few months ago.

EDIT: You get 30+10 for losing in the R1 as a qualifier.
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I thought a qualifier got the 30 points plus whatever points you earned in the MD. So a qualifier who loses in R1 should get 40 points, losing in R2 would get 80 points and so on.

The general atp ranking table for 2024 (which is revised from 2023) is at https://www.itftennis.com/media/11846/2 ... -table.pdf
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Nagal should be at another career high next week. He is currently #91 in the live rankings but can still be over taken by Garin and Berretini, so should be no worse 93 for next week.
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Google says he is playing Coria in qualifying. Error?

Ok, he plays the Italian Matteo Arnaldi, #38. Hope he goes one more step.
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Re: Sumit Nagal thread

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Yes, he that is an error.

Yes, I moved all Monte Carlo related posts from this thread to the other tournament thread-

viewtopic.php?t=220290&start=90

Further discussion can be made there.
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arjun2761 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:49 am Nagal should be at another career high next week. He is currently #91 in the live rankings but can still be over taken by Garin and Berretini, so should be no worse 93 for next week.
Well Berretini won the Marrakech tournament, so best ranking this week for Sumit is #92. However, there is someone playing a challenger final this week, who will also top him if he wins it, so then he will go down to #93. In either case, it will be a new career high for Sumit!
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Don't worry; a week later on Apr 15th, Sumit will be at least around 87 or 88. Win a main draw round and he will get closer to top-80.
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Sumit is #93 in official rankings, his new career high. He is #86 in live rankings. If he loses today, others may overtake him and he may end up around #90 in next Monday's rankings. If he wins today, can get to # 80.
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Leaving aside the Indian greats of the 80s and earlier, the best ranking of an Indian man is 62 by Somdev. Leander was at 72 and Prajnesh I believe reached 75.

The way Sumit is red hot right now and the clay season ahead, there is no reason why he cannot cross that and get to 50.
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^^^ He has earned some 450+ of his 729 points since last November, and has only about 275 to defend for the next 7 months, so getting close to 1000 points by late this year for top-50 is quite within his reach. He should at least go past the #61 target that Somdev set for him quite easily, barring injuries.
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Fitness... Its all about fitness.

Somdev made it to 62. Got injured. Was never the same again.
Prajnesh made it to his career high. Got injured. Was nowhere near the same ever again.
Harsh reached a career high of 224. Got injured in a tournament he won. Was never the same ever again.
Saki.... same story...

We have lacked the fitness to play high level tennis. So that's critical for Sumit. He has had an injury scare before. He had to modify his game for that. So in a way, he has made new career high post injury. A welcome change. However, the challenge remains. Hope he focuses on the same. All the best.
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Omkara wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:25 am Fitness... Its all about fitness.

Somdev made it to 62. Got injured. Was never the same again.
Prajnesh made it to his career high. Got injured. Was nowhere near the same ever again.
Harsh reached a career high of 224. Got injured in a tournament he won. Was never the same ever again.
Saki.... same story...

We have lacked the fitness to play high level tennis. So that's critical for Sumit. He has had an injury scare before. He had to modify his game for that. So in a way, he has made new career high post injury. A welcome change. However, the challenge remains. Hope he focuses on the same. All the best.
Yuki got to 83 and got injured.

I think Sumit will be smarter than these guys. He has more information and awareness. He has had to struggle a lot so he won't throw it away.
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None of them threw it away. In fact Harsh and Somdev knew about themselves. They took care. But such is this game. Ruthless.

Only Saki was probably a bit less careful. He played long with niggle. Vatsal, is this info about Saki correct?
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^^^ Also, Harsh and Somdev had their college degrees and all that, and they could see a life ahead without tennis being the sole breadwinner... Saki too. And then, Yuki and Saki had doubles to keep tennis going as their breadwinner if they needed it, so they could step away from singles when injuries became too much to handle (Yuki still persevered through multiple injuries and made three comebacks into top-150 after falling below even challenger levels; I give him credit).

But none of the above options are there in Sumit's case. It is singles or bust for him right now. Yeah, he is not going to throw it away easily, and he has to be careful about tour planning and avoiding any injury scuttling his plans. That is probably a big reason for him avoiding hard courts as much as he can (slightly more lower body impact). But sometimes you cannot do anything about injuries of certain kinds that come up. I will just hope and pray that he will be lucky on this count. Lord knows that he works hard, and will do whatever he needs to do to stay healthy and keep this going. Go Sumit. May Dhanwantari be on your side!
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