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^^^ only you and Pkb??? And nobody else to care ? ?
And here you ignored the messenger :D , I was the first one to bemoan this loss when monitering the situation for 2025 Grass events and brought it to each one's notice and to be aware about this sad loss of prestigious tradition of a grass court tournament.
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Oh yeah, how could I forget you? :( ... It will be the three of us, "grass hopers" ....
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OK, I'm going to post about this on X. And let's try and make it viral.
Weren't Infosys the sponsors of the tournament in recent years? Let's get them to get galvanised to do something to keep it going.
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Guess that might be too late as 25 Calender is already fixed and cannot insert any new tournaments like a Challenger or Futures at a short notice.

If at all it had to be done it should have been done last year and the muted silence or any rancour from Newport guys also didn't help the cause, as nobody even seems to be aware or even mentioned it and who knows probably they (NewPort) only silently would have surrendered the slot.
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Kinda surprised that Djoker is playing the wimbledon.. just three weeks after surgery..

An amazing athlete :notworthy: going for his 25th grandslam and equal Federer wimby record
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prasen9 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:47 am
Omkara wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:59 am Yes. Surprisingly clay, which is at the other end of the spectrum slowing everything down, has done well.
To me, this is not a surprise. However much I love to watch volleys, volleys do not win games that much. It was the serve that dominated in the grass court game. That is, players who were naturally strong and hit the weight room were extremely difficult to defeat. If you don't have a great serve, you have no chance on a grass court. On the other hand, on clay, it gives the slightly weaker player a chance if they can return the ball well. Players thought of that as more of a skill that could be developed than a great serve. Wrt a serve, there is skill too but strength matters a lot. And, it is harder to develop. The counter-example, of course, is that Nadal was near undefeatable on clay whereas many people won Wimbledon. But, I am talking of perception.

From a spectators point of view, they love watching more rallies than aces that finish fast.

Also, I think grass courts take a lot more to maintain. At least, it needs watering, etc. Clay courts do not need that much water. That means it can be built anywhere and needs lower maintenance. So, a bit of practicality wrt costs, etc.

This is what I think is why clay became more popular. But, I have not researched it well enough. From anecdotes and talking to some tennis people ...
Last week one of my stops was Barcelona , and the Melia Hotel which I was staying was attached to the David Llyod Tennis centre and with its 16 clay courts had the privilege to play and experience Red Clay for the First time in my life.

And agree to what Omkara and Prasen have opined , Clay truly is the other end of the spectrum and what Prasen says is absolutely correct which I felt that one requires a lot of strength , Even my serve which according to Ram is in the 170-180 kmph range , simply anchored to surface and just slowed down compared to to zip obtained on HC or Grass.
The surface felt so slippery , but the topspin’s generated a lot of spin and having been generally used to playing a point which lasts 3 to 4 rallies , here minimum 10 to 12 rallies per point were the norm , which just drains you out physically, but the slow surface gave a lot of extra time for shot preparation which created an opportunity to manufacture the shots and get those angles. Truly a memorable experience the Red Clay offered and looking forward to more of that. :D
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:Offtopic:
I experience this every year when the monsoons get underway, and we are forced to shift from the grass courts at the Delhi Gymkhana to clay and hardcourts (I usually play on the clay because the hard courts are supposed to be worse for the ageing knees; until last year, I always grabbed a hard court if it was available: the club has 28 grass courts, 3 hard courts and 4 red clay courts -- a proper lawn tennis club :-) ). Never having been able to develop a kick second serve, I now have a very heavily sliced second serve on grass, where the ball spins away from the court and stays very low, forcing the opponent to go very wide and hit it straight back toward me to put away for a volley winner :) On clay, this just sits up for the opponent to hammer a down the line or crosscourt winner. I go back to a more basic second serve on clay after a week or two, and then it will take me a month to again perfect that spinning second serve in October.
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Rajiv wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:22 am Even my serve which according to Ram is in the 170-180 kmph range , simply anchored to surface and just slowed down compared to to zip obtained on HC or Grass.
You serve at 180 kph? Whoa... :notworthy:
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A humorous take but on a serious note a rather scary video by the ATP Guys on single handed BH dying a slow death.

https://youtu.be/tCUPz-JX8eo
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Djokovic joins Alcaraz on the defeated bench of the US Open. Pretty rare for the two top guys in the world (finalists at Wimbledon and the Olympics) to be out so early. It was obviously a rather big ask to play the Olympics on clay and quickly make the switch to hard courts for the US Open.

Theoretical world #1 Jannik Sinner is now in pole position for the title. But I think it is really an open field. Dimitrov, Fritz, Tiafoe, Zverev, Rublev must be hoping for that elusive Slam, but Medvedev and Sinner will have other ideas.
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The bottom half of the draw is wide open, with Fritz vs Zverev and Dimitrov vs Tiafoe. I watched the entire Dimitrov vs Rublev match, and Dimitrov is still mentally fragile. It was a terrific match from the standpoint of shot-making quality. But Dimitrov served a double-fault to make it 0-2 in the second set tiebreaker -- the sort of opportunity the top-5 of our era would have pounced on. But being 1-3 down, Dimitrov was able to reel off the next 6 points. And then he served another DF at a crucial stage in the final set, but got away with that too!

Top half is Sinner vs Medvedev and Draper vs de Minaur. Very lop-sided, with the first QF more or less a final now.
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The long eclipse of American men's tennis may finally be ending. For the first time in 15 years, an American will be in the men's singles final at a Slam -- with Taylor Fritz and Frances Tiafoe playing each other in one semifinal at this year's US Open. When Andy Roddick won the US Open 21 years ago, who could have imagined that it would be his only one, and no other American man would win another for the next couple of decades? Roddick made three finals at Wimbledon, but lost them all to Federer, including in 2009 when he had numerous chances but choked when it mattered.
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I am a Tiafoe fan. I got a picture with him at Cincinnati Open a few years ago. Very nice and patient with all the fans. I think he is a good dude and he won another fan. I was rooting for him. Hopefully next year.
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Coleman Wong of Hkg continues his expeditious rise and takes out #95 and the 2nd seed Alex Bolt in straight sets at the Thai Challenger and in the process reaches his 9th career Challenger semi's.

#128 in the live rankings now and still only 20 years of age , it is only a matter of time that he enters the elite Top 100.
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Quite an absorbing and a wonderfully written eloquent eulogy to one of the greatest Tennis Players of all time.
Engrossing piece of writing with shades of Nirmal Shekar.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spo ... 451088.cms
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