ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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Svrcina is playing the top seed Taro Daniel in Seoul today. I hope he wins that match and a couple more to be eligible for a SE spot at Matsuyama CH next week (or is Sameer going to tell me one can’t do that while having been accepted into a main draw elsewhere? :D ).
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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^^^ He might tell you that. I always believed that the rules said you couldn't withdraw from an ITF event when one gets close to an ATP challenger cut, and then play that challenger. But there was that one instance involving Mukund(?) that Sameer and I couldn't figure out, when he was able to withdraw from an ITF event and play a challenger qualies or something. Or maybe he got away with it, with nobody noticing... So, I don't know.

I too will love it if Svrcina does not come. Or if he goes to the SF or F this week and simply decides that he is going to skip next week.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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Dinesh wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:27 pm Svrcina is playing the top seed Taro Daniel in Seoul today. I hope he wins that match and a couple more to be eligible for a SE spot at Matsuyama CH next week (or is Sameer going to tell me one can’t do that while having been accepted into a main draw elsewhere? :D ).
Yes, of course. Sorry to disappoint you but he will not be allowed to do that. Immediately after I saw the entry list, I was unhappy to see Svercina's name in the entry list. I have seen his matches in deeper rounds of challengers against Sumit and he looked a top class player. What is he doing playing a M25 in India ? It will be quite tough for any of the Indians to beat him.

In second week entry list for Mumbai, RamK also gets in and one more top player, 232nd ranked Khumayun Sultanov has also entered. So, it will be become tougher for Indian players to go deep.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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Yeah. Svrcina is probably not going to beat Taro Daniel in the R2 and go deep in Seoul. Expect him to show up next week at Bhubaneswar.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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sameerph wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:50 pm
Dinesh wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:27 pm Svrcina is playing the top seed Taro Daniel in Seoul today. I hope he wins that match and a couple more to be eligible for a SE spot at Matsuyama CH next week (or is Sameer going to tell me one can’t do that while having been accepted into a main draw elsewhere? :D ).
Immediately after I saw the entry list, I was unhappy to see Svercina's name in the entry list. I have seen his matches in deeper rounds of challengers against Sumit and he looked a top class player. What is he doing playing a M25 in India ? It will be quite tough for any of the Indians to beat him.
Depending on what he eats and drinks in India, we may be able to get him in weeks 2 and 3. :D
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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^^^ Nah, 2 days will do. He needs to get out of Seoul and reach India by Saturday. We can take care of his tummy by next Tuesday when the Main Draw starts :)
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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jayakris wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:23 pm ^^^ Nah, 2 days will do. He needs to get out of Seoul and reach India by Saturday. We can take care of his tummy by next Tuesday when the Main Draw starts :)
So by hook, or by the COOK?
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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jayakris wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:16 pm
As of now, assuming two special exempt spots to clear, Yuvan and Manas are 2nd and 3rd out. I hope Manas, Yuvan and Rethin can get wildcards but think only Manas and Rethin will get it and Yuvan might end up as top seed in the qualies. That dude can never get a break anywhere, anyway. If he somehow makes the main draw, he will probably draw Svrcina :) ...
Kabir Hans from Orissa is #10 in qualifying entry list. So, I am sure he will get 1 of the wild cards. Manas and Rethin should get the 2. 4th wild card will be uncertain, hope Yuvan gets it.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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Dalibor lost in easy sets, so I guess he will make the trek to Odissa now.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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Donskoy is out, so at least one less foreign player to deal with :-)
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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I am glad that one more Indian player will get a chance but I am not happy with the quality of the opposition being watered down. Cheap points make some small gains for our players who then promptly lose and get back to their rightful rank. Anyway, who is out is out. I hope several of our players upset the foreigners and go deep and keep the trophy in the country.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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Sid will seed.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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prasen9 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:16 pm I am glad that one more Indian player will get a chance but I am not happy with the quality of the opposition being watered down. Cheap points make some small gains for our players who then promptly lose and get back to their rightful rank. Anyway, who is out is out. I hope several of our players upset the foreigners and go deep and keep the trophy in the country.
While I understand that there have been some Indian players being over ranked due to cheap opposition, I don’t think this sentiment of your makes sense for this tournament when there are some actual future hopefuls vying to climb up the ladder. There has never been a pro tournament where all of Aryan Shah, Manas Dhamne, Yuvan Nandal, etc., have competed in, so yes, lesser the foreign opponents, better for these future prospects, especially when they have to overcome players like Dalibor who should not be entering M25 level.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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The lesser the foreign participation, the better it is for these players to gain points. However, gaining points is not the only criterion in life. The tougher the competition, the better it is for players because you can only improve by playing better players. When the competition is top-notch, then you know where you are failing and get practical feedback from the field, which you cannot when the field is good. I am glad that people from a higher level are playing the lower tournaments. Good for our players. They will get direct competition against better players - the only way to improve.
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Re: ITF M25 Series, India Nov 2024

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While I agree that better competition is a path to improvement, I agree with Dinesh that our players need to get local points to be able to play better competition abroad. We don't have that many tournaments in India (at all levels), so our players need to play and compete abroad. Getting some theoretically cheaper points at home allow them to predictably travel and enter tournaments abroad which is helpful for most Indian players who have budget limitations.

Of course, ideally it will be great if we have many more tournaments in India, so that our players play better competition to improve but are also then able to gain sufficient points locally within the budget constraints.
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