Indian domestic cricket/ players

[prasen9]

Prasen, has someone hacked your account? You seem to have had a change of heart on many issues you were steadfast about earlier. I’m noticing it more and more.

U have to overwhelm with data to change his mind. He has always been in favor of gradually phasing out older gen. So not sure where u feel he has changed his position. I guess, u are probably referring to post where he advocated for state teams to do what is best for them and if they feel that older players give them better chance, so be it. I kind of understand Prasen’s positioning, but will let him explain it in his own words.

My take is that unless older players are way better, u need to start transitioning as well. But if that older player is my favorite player approaching significant milestones, u better not touch him unless he is significantly worse than his replacement player

To be honest, I am not sure about anything. Often, I take strong sides to see what the other side has to say.

[Kumar]

Tanush Kotian Appears to be very good with bat and average with ball

Lord Thakur once again shows up . Again a player who seems very average with very little skills, but always shows up in scorecard. Sverytime I write him off he comes up with match saving pr winning performance.

Also, goes onto show the quality in domestic where a player of Thakur’s caliber looks way better both with ball and bat

What if the test failures are so much better in domestic than their potential replacements? Do we really think these potential players will perform that well?

[prasen9]

These are the semis. So the quality should at least be good. The opposition has a decent bowling and was wrecking havoc with 7 down for Mumbai. If anything, we like the intangibles in fighters and he put up a hell of a fight to rescue his team and most possibly the match and thereby the season. This is the domestic equivalent of the Kapil knock - if Mumbai wins it all.

In tests, he has batted and given us a bit less than 20 runs on average. And, while bowling averaged 28 and a shade over. We complain that we need our bowlers to bat, etc. If we are serious, we need to not consider any bowler at #8 or #9 say abroad who does not average 20 say in domestics. Shardul can be a handy 3rd or better fit for a 4th pacer abroad when we need someone.

We say intangibles are hard to capture. But, intangibles are captured if you look at the bottom-line. If someone is doing flukes for sometime, maybe that is not a fluke. You think it is a fluke because you think your eyes are so smart that they can capture the intangibles that make a great player. It cannot. Shardul looks awful. He bowls slowly. Sometimes does not maintain line and length. Gets hit in ODIs and T20Is badly because of this. But, with the red ball, he comes in again and again and gets the odd wickets here and there when we need it and scores the runs here and there when we need it. He is quintessentially bits and pieces. But, the problem is that we don't have very many other bits and pieces players who are good.

Hardik has decided he would rather earn money and the BCCI has not asked him to play red ball. He would be the only allrounder better than Shardul who can be a 3rd or 4th bowler. Either BCCI should release his medical statement saying that he is not going to last according to medicos. Or they should make him play red ball if he wants to be eligible to play in the IPL, T20Is, etc.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Star players ( who are not selected) should play domestic, nothing against it but why star players will play only knockouts and snatch the dream of fringe players who toiled hard from begining of the tournament, to put their team in the knockouts.
Avesh Khan, Thakur, Iyer from no where gets picked in the final playing XI of semis, they were hardly around in earlier rounds. Ishan Kishan waited to play Ranji till his team had chance to play knockouts.

[prasen9]

Iyer was playing test and rested for one match. Yes, all players should be playing all matches. Teams and BCCI can judiciously rest pace bowlers using some meaningful (not random) metric to not burn them down. Anyway, teams should play the best players available irrespective of who they played the previous rounds.

In this season, the top batters (by average, qual:533 runs)

Padikkal 92.66, Sachin Baby 83, Palwal 79.25, Bhui 75, Jaga 74, Indrajith 69, Pujara 69.

Palwal averages 46 in his career, which means he is mediocre in today's inflated Ranjis. Bhui averages 47. Blah.

Most of these guys have played 7 to 9 games while Padikkal played only four.

From these, I would choose Indrajith for the A-team to see what he can do because you need multiple such big seasons to get over the 50 runs/out mark and Indrajith has performed for some time. Not a fan of one season wonders getting into the Indian team.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Finally some good initiative from BCCI to work with pacers who has got raw pace. At present list is small hope talents like Yash Thakur, Tyagi, Charak, Kuldeep Sen also gets added
https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/129 ... -resources

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Good to see improvement from Shardul Thakur. He should be picked for A team, if Aus A tour happens. Yash Thakur should also be in long term plan.

[indiansportsfan]

It is unfortunate for Thakur that the seam friendly pitches we produce for our domestic games, we don't use similar ones for our international matches and hence Thakur doesn't come in the team reckoning. Thakur can be handful in SENA countries and occasionally in WI-SL as well (depending on the pitch).

[prasen9]

The Lord lords it again. He should be in the A-team or as a backup in the main team in case of several injuries.