England in India 2024-25 : The Pataudi Trophy

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Re: England in India 2024-25 : The Pataudi Trophy

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Dhruv Jurel looked very composed with the bat. Ashwin batted well too. Our last three have gone down the drain. At some point, Kuldeep would score a 10 or a 12. Now, he ranges from 2-6 or something like that. Bumrah's batting has regressed after his injury and Siraj has no money to plug the hole in his bat or to buy a new bat. But, Siraj seems to be trying a bit these days but that hole still remains.

Useless coaching if nothing ever improves.

At least they recognized the futility of bringing in people like Bharat, who have been poor or very mediocre in Indian batting conditions, which means they would go a notch down in tests. Similarly Patidar. I hope Patidar does a Gill and scores a big century in the next innings.
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Dhruv Jurel is a quality player and has got both waiting & hitting game in him. But at present he should concentrate only on Test cricket, hope he doesn't fall soon on Dravidian theory of all format player like SKY
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Pitch is still very good for batting, hope it breaks from Day 3
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What a shellacking.. At this rate they will reach 700 runs before end of 3rd day play. If the pitch cracks from 4th day , we are losing this game

We needed Jadeja to stay and not fall immediately and once again to Root. Very soft dismissal. If we don’t get England all out by tea, we may not draw this match let alone win
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A very stupid pitch. Why are we rotating matches to towns where they don't know how to make pitches to give the home team advantage? Unfortunately, Ashwin and Jadeja are now good only on fast turners. We need our pitches to have pace and turn. Our batters will figure things out. England simply seems better prepared with good plans to counter what we throw at them. And, when they do, we have no counter-plans.
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I don’t think we have batsman capable of handling quick turners. We need pitches like Vizag or even Hyderabad. But we lost the plot with inept batting falling 32/3 in this pitxh batting first. Needed to score 600+ to have any chance.

Funnily google atill showing india with higher win probability
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Well, with rank turners, we will know which of our batters can tackle spin and who cannot. We should use the current series for rebuilding. I think Yashasvi, Rohit, Sarfaraz and perhaps even Patidar can handle rank turners. Jurel, Jadeja, and Ashwin can too. So, it will be a test.
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Ashwin has withdrawn from the test due to a family emergency. With 10 players this match is list
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This "family emergency" thing started by Kohli is becoming an epidemic! Withdrawing in the middle of a test match is absolutely the giddy limit.
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Cricket is a job now. They should allow substitutions. That would mean a lot of strategy and innovation will come in and being able to replace non-functioning players will actually improve the quality of the product.
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PKBasu wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:18 pm This "family emergency" thing started by Kohli is becoming an epidemic! Withdrawing in the middle of a test match is absolutely the giddy limit.
https://sports.ndtv.com/india-vs-englan ... 1714/amp/1

Looks like his mom is not well. And it absolutely takes primary importance over a test match. There will be another test match, but if he cannot be with his mother during this moment that will probably haunt him thru rest of his life. Sachin came back immediately after hia father’s death. That should be an exception rather than rule and be a individual preference.


Hope everything is okay with his mother
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Skipper should try some overs with Jaiswal & Sarfaraz. Both use to bowl at under 19 level.
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Patidar, Good Bye ! It has been nice knowing u and welxome to the world of few and done players whose performance however great in future will not mean anything


I did not see this coming from Siraj. By the way he was underused in that first maych and that was the problem. He should have been persisted even after going for runs like this match

I think Jaiswal is a better candidate to bowl especially with english players tendency to play reverse sweep. Is jaiswal injured or conditioning issue?
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Yes!!! Finally, a pitch on which our second pacer produced. And, great to see Gill becoming more consistent. May he continue to score run after run. Need a big innings. He must absolutely make this start work as shoudl Yashasvi. How was Jurel's keeping?

Patidar lost it in his mind. I am not in his mind but in the first test he looked meek and unsure. Tentativeness is not a good mindset. Anyway, in the long run, very few people who were averaging below 50 in the domestics had a long career batting in tests. Using a very crude projection of -8 to -10, Patidar is supposed to be about a Jadeja with the bat without the bowling. That may be 1-2 runs/inning lower than Rahane but with the talent we have we can find 3-4 players who will average 40+ in test cricket.

If Rahul gets fit, and I know our worst batter who played 50 tests will be welcome with open arms, I hope he replaces Patidar and not Sarafaz.

Can Jaiswal learn to bat in SENA?
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Do anyone know why Jaiswal retired hurt? Did he get injured? Or more like cramps or something like that?

They need to have him play county cricket. Also select him to A tour that will be playing NZ or Australia. I am not convinced he will be good in SENA
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