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Ishan declined playing in Dileep trophy. Unless he provided a valid excuse, he should not be considered for WI tour.

Saha declined saying if he is not being considered for selection there is no point playing as he does not want to block younger player

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There are 6 zones and the north east zone is a joke. Big stars from that game could really skew the stats.
Atithee wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:36 pm ^^ Kumar, but that would be logical, right? BCCI, and perhaps the regional politics will never follow logic. There used to be some limited overs India green, red, etc. games.

Doubt that will ever happen .. but we can hope right. BCCI using their clout to play A tours on bouncy tracks. Seems they use their clout to beef up their coffers but nothing to promote the game
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Addition North East Zone in domestic is excellent step. Its a big joke to criticize this zone. There are various other things which deserves more importance then criticisizing NE Zone.

How few of the domestic players now days gets injured throughout the season and become fit in a second during IPL?

Why players with few internatiional games starts avoiding domestic ?

When both international cricket & domestic is going on, why players who are not featuring in the Playing XI are not sent to domestic ?
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Babuji, you also ask logical questions. BCCI’s constitution doesn’t allow logical thinking. It only allows prioritizing money so they can have absolute power. As you know, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Save yourself some stress and don’t ask these logical questions. Leave such decisions to small fries like Australia, England, etc.
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Atithee wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:18 am Babuji, you also ask logical questions. BCCI’s constitution doesn’t allow logical thinking. It only allows prioritizing money so they can have absolute power. As you know, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Save yourself some stress and don’t ask these logical questions. Leave such decisions to small fries like Australia, England, etc.
Exactly what the great Andy Roberts expressed about Indian cricket. Money is runing talent and individual is becomming greater then the game. It would be hard to sustain for BCCI if the fans move away from the game like it hapened back in 2000 match fixing saga
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Mukherjee Babu wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:57 am fans move away from the game like it hapened back in 2000 match fixing saga
Not possible for the next 30-40 years. In my opinion - India needs to become a middle income country (from poor country) for non-Cricket/Badminton infrastructure and people preferences to evolve.
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I would like the BCCI to pull out of the ICC. Expand the IPL and remove quotas. Run the best cricket league in the world and increase the TV revenues. That should be the primary focus. After that, try to put together the best team for international cricket. Play international cricket only against the top 3-4 teams in the world. Or play international cricket simultaneously sending two India teams - one to a grade-A team in the world (typically SENA + maybe Pakistan and maybe at most one other team who is world standard) and another to the rest of the world. That will create depth and more matches, more TV revenues. All TV revenues from matches in India come to BCCI. We negotiate with teach team on how much we will pay them to play us. Of course, none of this will happen. But, if we do that we will have the highest quality players emerge from this.
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Akshay Wadkar 53+ avg in 41 FC and team is not getting wicket keeper batter to replace Pant
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@Babuji, his stats are absolutely bad in IPL. It is so bad, he has not even played a single match.

Don’t even bring up stats unless they have played in IPL . Even in domestic T20 , his average is only 25. So, sorry he can’t be selected for Indian test team

Days of Indian player getting selected for test team without IPL performance is over
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Well, he can be contender for test. IPL can be a good measure for T20 or in some instance ODI. Not sure, if there are other wicket keeper batsman with 50+ avg in Ranji ( has played multiple Ranji seasons and is below 30 years of age). Ideally, they have also taken their team to atleast semis.
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Atithee wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:36 pm ^^ Kumar, but that would be logical, right? BCCI, and perhaps the regional politics will never follow logic. There used to be some limited overs India green, red, etc. games.
In fact from 2014 thru 2019, Duleep trophy was played with three teams following Lodha panel recommendations. Not sure why it was abandoned.

The last year , when the NE zone was introduced, the scorecard
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/dul ... -scorecard

The top three batsman scored hundreds with two of them scoring double century. The west zone did not enforce follow on, but had their lower order throw their bat around in the second innings.

Kind of interesting that south zone chose Ricky Bhui as their second wicket keeper. He is not a regular keeper for his stateside or in u19 teams.The other possible options were Sanju Sampson and Jagadeeshan. central zone has got 4 wicket keepers in their side (Himanshu Mantri, Dhurv Juriel, Upendra Yadav and Akshay Wadkar). North zone appears tohave just Prabhsimran singh and Prashant chopra , both of them do not appear to keep for their state side. Teams are basically loading up on batsman , rather than choosing specialist wicket keepers, while team like central zone has four specialist keepers who have very good batting prowess (batting average of 39 and above in last ranji season).

Two east zone keepers have average of 30 and 33. West zone keeprs 40 and 25 in the last season. Just a small-sample size of why that old format was broken and Lodha recommendations were sound, but for zonalpolitics was abandoned after pandemics
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If you have it handy, who are the top or above-40 averaging keepers?
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Eknath Kedar 30y FC 12M 43.8, list A 15M, 67.3, 75.44 sr
Prasad Pawar 28.5Y 3M, 57 avg
N Jagadeeshan 27.5Y, 33M, 39.88 avg, list a, 44m, 49.76avg, 94.95 Sr
Harvik Desai 23.7y, FC 36M, 35.87
DC Jurel 22y FC 11m, 48.91, list a 16m , avg 18, sr141.73
A Wadkar 29y fc 41m, 53.51, list a 39m, 37.57, sr 74
Upendra yadav 26.7y, Fc 37m , 45avg, list a 30m, 42.31, sr 93
Ricky Bhui 26.7y, FC 61m, 44 avg, lista 63m, 45.33, sr 83
Ks bhararh 29.7y, Fc 91, 36.91,
hImanshu mantri 29.3y, fc 18m, 37.68 avg,
Het patel 24.6, Fc 13m, 45 avg,list a 23m, 42.9, sr 83.41

These are the keepes who played last ranji season as keeper. Don’t think Ricky Bhui is a full time keeper, but has been playing as keeper for aouth zoneover Jagadish who is a regular keeper

Seems little strange that Wadkar has not gotten too much press. Wondering how good his wickt keeping
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I am on the Wadkar bandwagon now. :-)
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Seems like BCCI is working on the public response to Sarfaraz selection. Attributing non-selection to lack of fitness and off field issues.
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prasen9 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:16 pm I am on the Wadkar bandwagon now. :-)
By the way, Wadkar got few opportunities in Duleep trophy (2018/2019) and scored 100 runs with average of 25. So unless he shows something in Duleep, he will never make it to A team.
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