India in Bangladesh 2022

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Sharma ji, if these three could bowl toe crushing yorkers at will, we will play them in every match and likely win most of them. The fact is that they cannot. In fact, we are the kings of conceding a boundary off the first or especially the last ball of an over. Please don’t delude yourself.

Indian bowling looking clueless under one year term of present bowling coach Paras Mhambrey. We have seen Bumrahless, Shamiless indian bowling under Bharat Arun, they didnt looked so much worst, infact they used to win matches for the team and bowled well in tough situations

[prasen9]

Sharma ji, if these three could bowl toe crushing yorkers at will, we will play them in every match and likely win most of them. The fact is that they cannot. In fact, we are the kings of conceding a boundary off the first or especially the last ball of an over. Please don’t delude yourself.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the modern day game is not dictated by one skill. These players can perhaps bowl toe-crushing yorkers, but, the modern batter is actually not that bad at playing these. Especially when Kuldeep and Umraan do not have absolute control over their line and length. A toecrushing yorker six inches left (to a right-handed batter) of the batter's toe is a wide ball. Or a wonderful gift to flick to the boundary. Six inches to the right is a straight ball of full length that is dispatched with a straight drive with little risk. The problem with K & U is line and length. And, the inability to swing the ball much. And, the inability to think and out-think the batter. A lot is involved in bowling.

Having said that, these guys are not to blame. The selectors are and the coaches are. In that, they need to improve no doubt. But, the system rewards them when especially Umraan has not done much and performed badly in the domestic T20s wrt keeping runs down. What message are we sending to them by hyping them and sending them up? That disciplined bowling does not matter. So, they go and bowl like headless chicken in the internationals and this is the result.

Yes, Mhambrey has been the bray-man. Braying maha (a lot) but not producing much. He is also not given these players for any consistent length of time. Umraan was there for a short tour. Maybe Paras brayed to him some words of wisdom but before they have time to work together, Umraan is dropped for the Bangla tour and we have Kuldeep. Who sort of has the same problems as Umraan being a young, new guy. And, when he brays more to Kuldeep, he will be dropped and some other guy playing. Musical chairs is an awful selection policy.

Find the real talented and stick to them for at least six months. Let us see if they can be coached. Then, you can change. Stupidity!

[Atithee]

The chosen ones can make the brayers’ jobs easy by learning how to bat. Just need dedication and commitment. No one will dare leave you out of the team if you have shown you can contribute with the bat. There, I solved all our selection issues.

[prasen9]

Well, DLC and Thakur can bat. However, they don't bat as well as a full-fledged allrounder. And, with the fielding rules we have, we need five full bowlers. Yuvraj types will not cut it today. Of course, our genuine allrounders Hardik and Jadeja, if fit, find themselves in the team - like you said, people will not dare drop them. But, if you can bat a bit like Thakur and are an awful bowler, you won't make it. So, it is the right balance. Our ODI bowlers should be Bumrah, Shami, Hardik with Siraj and PK backing them up. The rest are crap.

We need a few spinners. Jadeja and Sundar can bat and bowl. However, they are both defensive bowlers (in ODIs). Ideally, we need a leggie who can bat. Or a Kuldeep needs to improve his batting.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Well, DLC and Thakur can bat. However, they don't bat as well as a full-fledged allrounder. And, with the fielding rules we have, we need five full bowlers. Yuvraj types will not cut it today. Of course, our genuine allrounders Hardik and Jadeja, if fit, find themselves in the team - like you said, people will not dare drop them. But, if you can bat a bit like Thakur and are an awful bowler, you won't make it. So, it is the right balance. Our ODI bowlers should be Bumrah, Shami, Hardik with Siraj and PK backing them up. The rest are crap.

Thakur & DLC are bits and pieces cricketer, plenty of weakness in them. To make a right call with DLC, you have to finish his qouta of 10 overs with new ball, as he is worst then Bhuvi in bowling tough overs. Shardul's used to ball at higher 138+ when he made debut for India, now his pace is gone down a bit, can't trouble batters in asian tracks. Though team take their batting too high but their batting is like Srinath, Harbhajan or like Ajit Agarkar, who can surprise in their day but never gurantee consistency, so that team can play them as an allrounders. We can't even expect them to support a batter when a pitch is tough or ball tough overs. To develop their batting they need to bat at top 4 for their domestic side, IPL or A side. Jadeja & Pandya were never made in a day, their domestic side and IPL played a big role in promoting them as an allrounder. Without investing in DLC / Thakur, team should start grooming Raj Bawa for odis, recently he had a good performance against Kiwi A side and looks a good talent.

Sen should have been given the ball instead of Chahar, atleast with his pace he could have made the damage, bringing Chahar, for just 2 boundary balls of Sen wasn't a good decision from Rohit Sharma

[Mukherjee Babu]

Dravid policy of backing failures is hurting the team. Gill should have been replaced Dhawan.

[Omkara]

This is not the first time India has lost in Bangladesh. Let's see how the other matches turn out. Dhawan deserves a run of three four games before being asked to go. He played well whenever he was asked while representing the second string team.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Dhawan scored 289 runs in last 10 odis against most of the 2nd string sides at an average of 28. Already 160+ odis in his name, playing a failure instead of red hot form Gill is nothing but will hurt Gill's confidence. Omission of Deepak Hooda, who spends most of the time in dug out is also a surprise.Shahbaz Ahmed is not a number 7 entity. He has the potential to bat at 4, in games like these these guys needs exposure

[prasen9]

Absolutely. If you go a bit back, I defended Dhawan. But, not only has he not scored much, he has also been the slowest among Indian batters, I think. He is also old. We know what he can and cannot do. There is no point playing Dhawan anymore in these series. Or for that matter, Rohit, Rahul, and Kohli. Maybe have one slot for the four seniors and have them captain, and play the juniors in the rest.

[Sin Hombre]

This is not the first time India has lost in Bangladesh. Let's see how the other matches turn out. Dhawan deserves a run of three four games before being asked to go. He played well whenever he was asked while representing the second string team.

Have you not watched Dhawan for the past many years?

[prasen9]

Horrible batting by Thakur and Sundar did us in. There are no balls left to make a go at it now. These guys are slightly promoted up the batting order and they think they are Gavaskar. Sundar has a problem in that he is always very slow in ODIs. He needs to up his SR.

Anyway, this is a terrible team and pretty much has no chance at winning. We should have had Gill and some other backups here.

Horrible batting by DLC but we can excuse him because of his hamstring. He needs to get fitter though. Otherwise, he becomes a big risk.

Rohit is also injured. So, now he is the only hope.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

To search batter who can bowl is so high that the team is ending up in playing half batter & half bowler. Allround talent is a special skill.If that was the prime aim, then it would have been far bette if the team had given chance to real allrounders like Prerak Mankad, VIyer, Raj Bawa, Ryan Parag or make SKY & Hooda bowl qouta of 10 overs in this tour

[prasen9]

Exactly. We need reall allrounders. Otherwise, we roll the dice and play someone who can bat and someone who can bowl and live with exactly five bowlers.

SAY and Hooda are not in the team in this tour.

Terribly horrendous batting by Siraj. He is shaping up to be a good bowler. But, he should be asked to at least be able to hold a bat. Quite a difference from Bangla tail from yesterday.

[prasen9]

If Siraj had wasted only half or even three-fourths of those 10 balls, we would have been through. Stupidity!

I would rather rest the seniors and play the juniors. But, in reality, maybe they will rest Rohit and play Ishan. DLC should be dropped for Rajat or Tripathi. Or maybe they will give Shahbaz another go.

[Mukherjee Babu]

How many times Rohit & Virat will do the job ?

When will new commers i,e Iyers, Axars,Sundars, Gills, SKYs will take the responsibility of finishing the games. Rohit & Virat starting finishing the game along with Tendulkars, Shewags and Yuvrajs.