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sameerph wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:48 pm Yes, Sankar Muthusamy becomes only 4th Indian to reach final of world championships after Saina Nehwal, Aparna Popat and Siril Verma.
Terrific. By the way, is Siril Verma showing any signs of improving at the senior levels, or should we give up already?


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Give up on Siril.

The boys' winners in the juniors are not very predictive of senior success, unlike the girls.

I went back and checked all the winners from 2008 onwards (Saina's win) - 8/11 wins until 2019 were by girls who turned out great (great = medals at world championships+olympics, top-3 peak) ; same for boys is 2 though Viditsarn is on the path to potentially increasing that to 5.

5 of the boys winners amounted to nothing at the senior level; just one amongst the girls.

Boys winners : Wang Zhengming (steady top-20), Tian Houwei (steady top-20), Axelsen (great), Zulfadli Zulkiffli (average), Kento Momota (great), Heo Kwang Hee (average), Lin Guipu (who?), Lu Chia Hung (who?), Sun Feixiang (who?), Viditsarn (x3),

Girls winners : Nehwal (great), Ratchanok (x3)(great), Nozomi Okuhara (great), Akane Yamaguchi (x2) (great), Goh Jin wei (x2)(average), Chen Yufei (great), Gregoira Mariska (steady top-20)


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Siril is 22 older than Lakshya who is 21.He is still very young but I think it basically boils down to whether the players want to focus only on the sport for career or just continue it as a hobby. Last 2 years there was hardly any BWF tour events, even if some tournaments happened they were marred by Covid induced forced withdrawals etc, Now the tournaments seem to happen with some level of predictability so it may take some more time in BWF tour to notice how much progress some of these players made.

Between, after a gap of 2 years China will be finally hosting World tour Finals this December and will require strictest measures of bubble to let players participate. I think players won't be amused to go through all that non sense just to participate!


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Sin Hombre wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:57 am Give up on Siril.

The boys' winners in the juniors are not very predictive of senior success, unlike the girls.

I went back and checked all the winners from 2008 onwards (Saina's win) - 8/11 wins until 2019 were by girls who turned out great (great = medals at world championships+olympics, top-3 peak) ; same for boys is 2 though Viditsarn is on the path to potentially increasing that to 5.

5 of the boys winners amounted to nothing at the senior level; just one amongst the girls.

Boys winners : Wang Zhengming (steady top-20), Tian Houwei (steady top-20), Axelsen (great), Zulfadli Zulkiffli (average), Kento Momota (great), Heo Kwang Hee (average), Lin Guipu (who?), Lu Chia Hung (who?), Sun Feixiang (who?), Viditsarn (x3),

Girls winners : Nehwal (great), Ratchanok (x3)(great), Nozomi Okuhara (great), Akane Yamaguchi (x2) (great), Goh Jin wei (x2)(average), Chen Yufei (great), Gregoira Mariska (steady top-20)
That is great analysis, Sinhombre. From the boys side batch of 2018 world championships looks great and already doing well on senior tour, champion Thai Viditsarn is ranked 10th, runner up Kodai is ranked 20th, bronze medalist Lakshya is ranked 8th, other bronze medalist Li Shifeng is ranked 30th.

So, if one of the recent world championships is an indication, hope Sankar Muthusamy is headed to at least top 20 in 3-4 years time. Beyond that difficult to predict.


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It sounds like hoping for a top-20 is not too bad, and has a pretty decent chance to happen. Great. Always nice to see young names coming up like Sankar. I read that a girl is currently the under-19 world number-1? Satnam Mir from Gujarat, right?


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Sankar Muthusamy lost in the final in straight games.

Satwik-Chirag win their first BWF 750 title at French Open.


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^^ Okay, I will drop expectation to top-40 then for Sankar. Still good!


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Moved the posts on the use of the word "Between," to the Know Your English thread. Mod, Jay


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Srikanth and Treesa-Gayathri reach the semifinals on Super 300 Hylo open; Chirag/Satwik got upset in the quarters.


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Both lost in SF against higher ranked players. Srikanth lost in straight games against Ginting from Indonesia while Treat Gayatri missed a great opportunity beat 8th seeded Thai pair as they were leading 18-15 in third game and lost 6 straight points.

Still, I would say a good tournament for Tresa-Gayatri and Malvika Bansod who reached QF in women's singles.


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Treesa-Gayatri attain career-best ranking; break into top 20 In the latest BWF World rankings.
Lakshya Sen re-gained sixth spot while pair of Treesa Jolly/Gayatri Gopichand achieved their career-best 19th rank.

https://thebridge.in/badminton/bwf-worl ... ium=social