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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by sameerph » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:45 am

True, Jaydeep. Ashwini is not on decline. She can be quite good in doubles for next 5 years. The only younger womens doubles player who comes close to Ashwini's abilities in doubles is 23 year old Sikki Reddy. So, Satwiksairaj had to pair up with 1 of then. I saw him and Ashwini play in Sudirman cup and they were quite good.
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Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:38 am
In badminton, why is someone a super-exciting doubles candidate and not a singles player? He cannot cut it in singles but is top-class in doubles?
Somehow in badminton players tend to be doubles specialists right from young age. It is not like tennis where players turn to doubles only after they have tried their hand in singles and found that they are not cut out for that. I have also wondered why is it so.

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by Varma » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:07 pm

jaydeep wrote:
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Varma wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:28 pm
From what I heard, Satwiksairaj is a super exciting prospect in doubles. I wish he is paired up with a youngster in Mxd category than with Ashwini, who might be on the decline.
Varma, Ashwini's age is 27 yrs., not a 30+ yr old veteran ... :p
I didn't call her a veteran, Prasen did :p I only said she might be on the decline. But 27 is not bad at all, so it might benefit Satwik in the long run.

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by Varma » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:13 pm

sameerph wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:45 am
True, Jaydeep. Ashwini is not on decline. She can be quite good in doubles for next 5 years. The only younger womens doubles player who comes close to Ashwini's abilities in doubles is 23 year old Sikki Reddy. So, Satwiksairaj had to pair up with 1 of then. I saw him and Ashwini play in Sudirman cup and they were quite good.
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Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:38 am
In badminton, why is someone a super-exciting doubles candidate and not a singles player? He cannot cut it in singles but is top-class in doubles?
Somehow in badminton players tend to be doubles specialists right from young age. It is not like tennis where players turn to doubles only after they have tried their hand in singles and found that they are not cut out for that. I have also wondered why is it so.
That's right, Sameer. I remember Gopi complain about that a few years ago when asked why no doubles pairs are coming up in India while we had several singles players in top 50. This is totally opposite to what we see in Tennis. Gopi said players don't stick to doubles as per his advise for many reasons. To begin with, parents don't like that idea. Secondly, most of them get recruited by companies like BPCL, ONGC etc., who force them to play both singles and doubles. He said if players stick to doubles and only doubles, results will be much more better. Slowly but surely we are getting there, I think.

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by prasen9 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:50 pm

Varma wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:07 pm
jaydeep wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:34 am
Varma wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:28 pm
From what I heard, Satwiksairaj is a super exciting prospect in doubles. I wish he is paired up with a youngster in Mxd category than with Ashwini, who might be on the decline.
Varma, Ashwini's age is 27 yrs., not a 30+ yr old veteran ... :p
I didn't call her a veteran, Prasen did :p I only said she might be on the decline. But 27 is not bad at all, so it might benefit Satwik in the long run.

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I mean Varma said that she may be on the decline. So, I used that term. I think I have been in the U.S. far too long. In the U.S. somebody has played 4-5 years in a league is called a "veteran". I used to think just like Jaydeep did that these guys are not veterans! And think about the weirdness of the American usage. Somehow subconsciously, I have fallen prey and did what I thought was weird now. Language morphs itself based on the environment you are immersed in. To my defence, 27 and 30 are not that far apart :-)

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by Sin Hombre » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:05 am

27 to 30 is probably half of your sporting prime :p (unless you are playing golf)

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by prasen9 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:24 am

I do not follow golf :-) Yes, 3 years is possibly more than half of the average NBA, NFL, NHL, and MLB careers here. But, that is taking the average person, who often is out of the game because they are not good enough. I think the people who are good play a lot longer and three years is not that big a chunk of their career. A lot of top badminton players do not last beyond 30. Whereas an MLB player could last until 35. Superstar NBA players last until 37 or so. Etc. So, 27 is pretty close to 30. But, yes, 24-30 could be the best years of a male badminton player's lifespan. MLB players possibly mature around 27-28 and then play another 6-7 years in peak form.

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by PKBasu » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:47 am

We now have 4 Indian males ranked in the top-25 in singles -- Srikanth is 8th, Sai Praneeth is 15th, Jayaram is 16th, and Prannoy is 23rd. Ajay Jayaram is 29 years old, but the others are all 24. I hope they become like the Swedish tennis contingent of the 1980s (Wilander, Edberg, Jarryd, Nystrom) in reinforcing each other's successes.

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by PKBasu » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:50 am

Among the women, Pusarla Sindhu is 5th and Saina Nehwal is 15th.

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by sameerph » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:16 am

I think for the first time we have 5 Indians in the top 20 rankings in mens singles.

These are the updates ranking as of today ( top 50)-

Men's Singles
8 Srikanth Kidambi
15 H. S. Prannoy
17 B. Sai Praneeth
19 Sameer Varma
20 Ajay Jayaram
33 Sourabh Varma
46 Purupalli Kashyap

Women's Singles
2 P. V. Sindhu
12 Saina Nehwal
47 Rituparna Das

Men's Doubles
32 Satwiksairaj Ranikreddy/ Chirag Shetty
33 Manu Attri / B. Sumeeth Reddy
37 MR Arjun/ Shlok Ramchandran
43 Alwin Francis / Tarun Kona

Women's Doubles
23 Ashwini Ponnappa / Sikki Reddy
39 Sanjana Santosh / Arathi Sara Sunil
43 JAKKAMPUDI Meghana /Poorvisha S RAM

Mixed doubles
17 Pranaav Jerry Chopra / Sikki Reddy
44 Yogendran Khrishnan (USA) / Prajakta Sawant

Apart from mens singles achievement, Sindhu is back to #2 and Satwik/Chirag become our #1 mens doubles pair and are moving ahead steadily as are Ashwini-Sikki and Pranav-Sikki.

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by rajitghosh » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:08 am

sameerph wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:16 am
I think for the first time we have 5 Indians in the top 20 rankings in mens singles.

These are the updates ranking as of today ( top 50)-

Men's Singles
8 Srikanth Kidambi
15 H. S. Prannoy
17 B. Sai Praneeth
19 Sameer Varma
20 Ajay Jayaram
33 Sourabh Varma
46 Purupalli Kashyap

Women's Singles
2 P. V. Sindhu
12 Saina Nehwal
47 Rituparna Das

Men's Doubles
32 Satwiksairaj Ranikreddy/ Chirag Shetty
33 Manu Attri / B. Sumeeth Reddy
37 MR Arjun/ Shlok Ramchandran
43 Alwin Francis / Tarun Kona

Women's Doubles
23 Ashwini Ponnappa / Sikki Reddy
39 Sanjana Santosh / Arathi Sara Sunil
43 JAKKAMPUDI Meghana /Poorvisha S RAM

Mixed doubles
17 Pranaav Jerry Chopra / Sikki Reddy
44 Yogendran Khrishnan (USA) / Prajakta Sawant

Apart from mens singles achievement, Sindhu is back to #2 and Satwik/Chirag become our #1 mens doubles pair and are moving ahead steadily as are Ashwini-Sikki and Pranav-Sikki.
Of these players, Sindhu, Ajay Jayaram and Sameer Varma are the only ones who have big points to defend for the rest of the year. For the others there is a good opportunity for improving their rankings significantly. Srikanth is sure to qualify for the year end masters event along with Sindhu. So that becomes a further opportunity for him.

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Re: Indian Badminton Player Rankings

Post by sameerph » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:16 pm

True, in fact for year end masters, there are a separate set of rankings called " Destination Dubai Rankings" which take into consideration only points earned at super series tournaments in this calendar year.

Srikanth is #2 in those rankings which also indicates that those above him in BWF rankings are holding on to lot of points for rest of the year. Srikanth has a great opportunity to finish among top 5 in the rankings at the end of the year. Apart from Srikanth and Sindhu who should easily qualify for masters, Sai Praneeth and Saina are ranked 12 and 14 respectively. So, they also have some chance of qualifying if they do well in rest of super series events for the year.

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