Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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Again, utter crap from Siraj. He got himself run out. Poor effort. The management is to blame. Why do we need two pacers on this pitch? Playing five bowlers without reading the pitch is stupid. We needed both Rahul and Gill to play here and maybe we would have gotten 20 more runs or something like that.

Tweedle dum got replaced by Tweedle dee and did what tweedle's do. Fail with the bat. Gill continues his poor test career. The rest of the batting the less said the better. They are past their expiry date. Pujara may still be okay. Kohli will always look good when he is batting but he has lost that little something. One ball comes where he loses his concentration or does that little extra and he gets out. We should start rebuilidng the middle order.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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What a pathetic day so far. Expected batting collapse, followed by Jadeja getting a wicket off a no ball and Australia almost halfway to our total with 9 wickets in hand. And scoring very quickly. Heading towards a thrashing? Given the selections, it is due :-(
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Add to that two bad DRS calls nudged by Jadeja due to which they did not go for the DRS when Labu was out vs Ashwin. Labu is still there!

We are badly missing Pant. Bharat continues to fail with the bat along with everyone else, I suppose. Axar, Rohit, and Jadeja have batted well this series. Maybe Ashwin at times. The rest have been crap.

The problem also has been that Ashwin, Jadeja, and Shami have gotten not much help from the others. Axar has bowled at 80 runs/wicket and Siraj at 60 runs/wicket on these pitches. Hope it is a temporary loss of form or bad luck and they get some wickets soon. The series is only about half over and we need contributions from everyone and not carry non-performers like Siraj. I would always have liked an extra bat either SkAY or KLR.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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The Australians are showing that it's not impossible to bat on this pitch. Rohit Sharma set a really bizarre tone at the start of the innings. (I missed seeing the first over, saw a lot of the Indian innings in the morning session, but haven't watched post-lunch; busy at work!). He was apparently caught behind off the first ball, given not out by Menon, and escaped because Australia chose not to ask DRS. Again off the fourth ball, he went for another expansive hit, and was LBW but given not out and escaped because Smith chose not to review. He had gone for 2 ludicrous shots in the over in which he got out -- one a sweep to a ball outside off, another wild swipe, and then he went for yet another one and found himself far outside the crease to be stumped. That was a terrible start to the Indian innings, and it was frenetic as the wickets kept falling. The Indian batsmen should have listened to what Smith said before the match: you need to slow things down when too much is happening too quickly in India, and particularly at the start of your innings. Skipper Rohit played an absurd innings this morning, failing to capitalise on all the opportunities that came his way, and instead playing loose shot after loose shot until his wicket had been snared.
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Jadeja has got all 4 Australian wickets today, but he could have had a fifth if he hadn't over-stepped. He undermines himself horribly by bowling so many no-balls (there was another early in the innings too). For a spinner to bowl no-balls is really unacceptable lack of discipline.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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Great to see skeleton of the team against spin though the trailer was already shown against Bangladesh in 2nd test.Expectation was there from K Bharat as he plays FC regularly and has faced this sort of tracks frequently, nothing to say on others, all are passengers. No performance from that "one man" today who is doing the job in last 2 years.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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There is no "one man" who has been batting better than the others in the last two years in tests. Here are the numbers:

Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
SS Iyer 2021-2023 9 15 1 640 105 45.71 985 64.97 1 5 1 77 12 investigate this query
RG Sharma 2021-2023 11 18 1 766 127 45.05 1615 47.43 2 2 0 91 9 investigate this query
RR Pant 2021-2022 14 24 1 1014 146 44.08 1302 77.88 3 5 1 114 24 investigate this query
AR Patel 2021-2023 9 13 3 407 84 40.70 772 52.72 0 3 0 43 12 investigate this query
RA Jadeja 2021-2023 12 19 1 669 175* 37.16 1381 48.44 2 3 1 79 5 investigate this query
GH Vihari 2022-2022 4 7 1 215 58 35.83 522 41.18 0 1 0 24 0 investigate this query
WP Saha 2021-2021 2 4 1 102 61* 34.00 212 48.11 0 1 0 9 2 investigate this query
MA Agarwal 2021-2022 7 13 0 436 150 33.53 851 51.23 1 2 0 66 5 investigate this query
KL Rahul 2021-2023 11 21 0 636 129 30.28 1563 40.69 2 2 1 81 4 investigate this query
CA Pujara 2021-2023 17 31 3 826 102* 29.50 2044 40.41 1 5 3 113 1 investigate this query
Shubman Gill 2021-2023 8 14 0 379 110 27.07 653 58.03 1 1 1 41 7 investigate this query
V Kohli 2021-2023 17 29 1 727 79 25.96 1717 42.34 0 3 3 85 2 investigate this query
R Ashwin 2021-2023 14 21 1 463 61 23.15 798 58.02 0 2 1 52 4 investigate this query
AM Rahane 2021-2022 10 18 0 375 61 20.83 813 46.12 0 2 2 50 2 investigate this query
SN Thakur 2021-2022 6 11 0 181 60 16.45 237 76.37 0 2 2 23 7 investigate this query
Mohammed Shami 2021-2023 12 20 4 226 56* 14.12 332 68.07 0 1 4 28 5 investigate this query
JJ Bumrah 2021-2022 11 18 6 169 34* 14.08 264 64.01 0 0 6 19 6 investigate this query
Iyer averages 45.7, Rohit 45, Pant 44, Axar 40.

Then, we have Jadeja 37, Vihari 35.83, Saha 34 and Agarwal 33.53

Rahul averages 30.3, Pujara 29.5, Gill 27.07, Kohli 25.96.

Saha was kicked out. As was Agarwal and Rahul. Somehow Gill came back - hope he has fixed his issues. Pujara and Kohli are past their use-by dates and should be kicked out.

Losing Pant and Saha has been a big dropoff.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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It should actually have been 156/8, because Bharat dropped two simple catches (and gave away nine byes), Jadeja bowled Labuschagne when the score was 14/1 (but he had overstepped) and Ashwin had him LBW at 38/1 but they didn't go for the DRS review.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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Great last hour before lunch, but the damage done on a shocking 1st day is probably too much to overcome. We need 3-4 of the passengers to perform with the bat now.
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lol. Passenger #1 Siraj cannot bat. I had called for Umesh Yadav and PKB, I think also supported that. He has clearly showed why. 17 runs. Three wickets to mop up the tail. And a direct hit that almost got Khawaja out from near the boundary. Siraj had a good save and an awful misfield at midoff. Even old Ashwin and Pujara misfield less often. In fact, if you see on TV there is a misfield, especially one where the player had to bend down and missed the ball, you do not need to look at who that could be. You would be right more times than not calling Siraj. He needs to do yoga to improve his flexibility and maybe drills to improve his hand eye coordination. His timing and placement are all wrong when bending down. He runs fast and tries but looks like an idiot on field. Siraj has been taking wickets at 73 runs in this series so far. Time to rest him. Unless, of course, we win this match and then next match we play on a grassy pitch.

The point really is not that Siraj is a bad bowler. He is an awful batter and fielder. But, I want him retained. For overseas tours. In India, Shami, Umesh, and Bumrah are really a cut above the rest because they have learnt how to reverse swing that Siraj has not. In England, we should play Shami, Umesh, and Bumrah with Siraj being first backup. If Bumrah is still out, we go with Siraj. Or Thakur if we are playing five bowlers.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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Passenger #2 has been Iyer after a very good two years. He needs to contribute. And passenger #3 has been Pujara. Need runs from him too. Passenger #4 Kohli has shown some good signs but we need a great innings for him to get back to his great era.

Update: Passenger #4 falls to the same type of issue. Looks sublime and then makes one error too many. Remains passenger. Maybe we should add a duo-passenger of Gill-Rahul. That passenger failed too. Someone needs to score some runs.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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Tweedle Dee played a crappy shot. Absolutely nonsense shot. And, we see the futility of choosing not based on the pitches and evidence. We got 13 runs/innings from Tweedle Dee in this series and 12.66 from Tweedle Dum. Nothing to choose from. Mayank or Easwaran would have been much better. Or Yashasvi for that matter. Also, shows the futility of using white ball form to choose for red ball cricket on these wickets.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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Australia have been better in this match and deserve to win. I can't see us setting any sort of target with the dross we have for batting.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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Gill and Rahul played the Bangladesh series together. Gill out-performed Rahul comfortably, and hence should have been picked for the first two tests ahead of Rahul. If Gill had failed, Mayank or Eashwaran could have been blooded here. But comparing Gill's numbers from a single test where no other Indian batsman (apart from Pujara in this innings) has got past 25 with Rahul's from tests in which others contributed hugely (including a century from the other opener) is a tad unfair, perhaps even disingenuous.
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Re: Australia tests & ODIs vs India in India, Feb-Mar 2023

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If Pujara gets to 80, India should have a lead of around 100 (with the others batting around him). If Pujara gets to 120, India can yet win this test. Of course, if Axar bats like he did in the first two tests, India may be competitive even without Pujara making too much more than 50.
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