India in Bangladesh 2022

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India in Bangladesh 2022

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Odi Super League :

4th December - India V/s Bangladesh, Dhaka
7th December - India V/s Bangladesh, Dhaka
10th December - India V/s Bangladesh, Dhaka

WTC ( Test Series )

14th December - India V/s Bangladesh, Chattogram
22nd December - India V/s Bangladesh, Chattogram
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Re: India in Bangladesh 2022

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I am wondering if we can use the already existing bangladesh india thread. (After renaming it)

http://www.sports-india.com/phpBB/viewt ... 0&t=219408

@Raj, please avoid starting new cricket threads and try to see if we can reuse existing threads. Especially for series that does not involve top playing nations.
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Re: India in Bangladesh

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Kumar wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:47 pm I am wondering if we can use the already existing bangladesh india thread. (After renaming it)

http://www.sports-india.com/phpBB/viewt ... 0&t=219408

@Raj, please avoid starting new cricket threads and try to see if we can reuse existing threads. Especially for series that does not involve top playing nations.
This series is very much important as test matches are included in World Test Championship and after SA series loss in England, battle has become more intensed.Secondly, India is touring Bangladesh, not Bangladesh touring India.So, this series very much needs a new thread.
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Actually, I do not mind a new thread. That way it is faster and easier to find the discussions about a series than if it gets buried in a long thread. And, last time, I checked creating a thread was free. :-)
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Re: India in Bangladesh 2022

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Odi Squad :

Rohit Sharma (C), KL Rahul (vc), Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli, Rajat Patidar, Shreyas Iyer, Rahul Tripathi, Rishabh Pant (wk), Ishan Kishan (wk), Ravindra Jadeja, Axar Patel, W Sundar, Shardul Thakur, Mohd. Shami, Mohd. Siraj, Deepak Chahar, Yash Dayal
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Test Squad :

Rohit Sharma (C), KL Rahul (VC), Shubman Gill, Cheteshwar Pujara, Virat Kohli, Shreyas Iyer, Rishabh Pant (wk), KS Bharat (wk), Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja, Axar Patel, Kuldeep Yadav, Shardul Thakur, Mohd. Shami, Mohd. Siraj, Umesh Yadav.
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So, Ishan Kishan is with the main team for Bangladesh Odis not selected for NZ odis. Samson selected for NZ odis in second XI, which means Kishan is ahead of Samson for 2023 World Cup Squad
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Rajkumar Sharma wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:23 pm Odi Squad :

Rohit Sharma (C), KL Rahul (vc), Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli, Rajat Patidar, Shreyas Iyer, Rahul Tripathi, Rishabh Pant (wk), Ishan Kishan (wk), Ravindra Jadeja, Axar Patel, W Sundar, Shardul Thakur, Mohd. Shami, Mohd. Siraj, Deepak Chahar, Yash Dayal
Patidar has a poor List-A record averaging about 35 at around 95 SR. Rahul Tripathi is even worse. 31 at about 86! Kishan about 36.5 @ 92. Our selectors are getting dumb and dumber. Dhawan has slowed down a lot and needs replacing. Whatever happened to Gill?

From this XI, I am comfortable with Rohit, Kohli, Pant, Jadeja. We need four more batters. I guess we throw all of them in.

Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Rahul, Pant, Kishan, Jadeja, DLC, Sundar, Shami, Siraj would be my choice.

Hooda has failed in ODIs thus far unlke in T20Is. But he got only 5-6 innings. I also have no clue why Gill, Samson, and Iyer are not there.
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Re: India in Bangladesh 2022

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Odi squad should be made keeping in mind 2011 WC template. First of all we need to find the way on how to approach dew factor. Games are to be played in October - November where the chances of dew is too much high, that makes the team bowling second completely venom less, neither its swings nor it spins. Need to have few at the top order who could bowl 5/6 overs like we had Yuvraj, Raina, Shewag, Yusuf Pathan in 2011 WC. Need to find one more finisher with Hardik like Yuvraj - Dhoni combo. SKY should now start bowl few overs, doesnt find anyone except him to win us games from tensed situation with big hits.
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I would have taken Nitish Rana, has performed well at IPL level and seems to have stepped it up lately. He can bat fast and also seems a pretty handy spinner.
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It was shocking that Sarfaraz Khan wasn't picked in the test squad. Pujara had a good county season, but he and Sarfaraz both played the Irani Cup match, and the latter shone while Pujara failed. If we aren't picking a guy who has made nearly 3000 first class runs at 81.33/innings, I don't know who we will pick. He also shone in the Duleep Trophy of course.
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Isn’t Sarfaraz a roly-poly guy who fielding credentials may be suspect? Poor fielders are no longer accepted. Nor should they be.
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Atithee wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:35 pm Isn’t Sarfaraz a roly-poly guy who fielding credentials may be suspect? Poor fielders are no longer accepted. Nor should they be.
Absolutely....., My son when in the UK his Club Coach at the Brondsbury CC (The Club where Ganguly,Gatting,Doshi,Arjun Tendulkar made their UK debuts) use to always say..
You have got to look the Part my Boy.. Look the Part...
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I will argue for all-round contributions to be evaluated. All this single dimension focus is nonsense. If you cannot bowl fast, does not matter. If you are a bad fielder, does not matter. If you cannot play the short ball, does not matter. Let's get off the fetishes. What we must do however is to quantify the impact. How many runs does Sarfraz give up on the field? He has to perform that much better than his peers with the bat. For example, if Sarfraz gives up 10 runs/innings (including the impact of dropped catches) and XYZ saves 3 runs/innings (including the impact of improbable catches made), then Sarfraz has to average 58 with the bat, if XYZ is averaging 45 with the bat for them to be considered equal. The Indian team must have fielding statistics even though that is not available publicly. Use that.

This fetishization of single feature leads to poor selections the likes of which will perhaps doom us in this T20WC. Focusing on people who can bowl 150k, who are vulnerable against the short ball, whose technique is bad, who is a bad fielder, etc. is not right. All these things should be taken into account, but no simple rule-based method should be used to make the final call. Sports analytics has come a long way for us to be using such primitive methods even though the human brain is perhaps evolved to make such simplifications. We are no longer being chased by tigers in a jungle to have to make split-second decisions based on a small number of features. Let us make better decisions based on all information available to us.

So, Sarfraz has to be that much better if he is a bad fielder. But, no automatic disqualifications. And, the selectors, coaches, etc. should spell out exactly that. That that you have to be much better with the bat if you are unfit. It is actually much easier to improve on fielding than on batting which is a harder skill. Even Ganguly because a so so fielder towards the end of his career after he paid attention to it rather than being the Prince on the field which he sort of was initially.
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Re: India in Bangladesh 2022

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Ravindra Jadeja & Yash Dayal out of Odi Series due to injury.
Kuldeep Sen and all-rounder Shahbaz Ahmed have been named as replacements
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