India in Bangladesh 2022

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We have IPL starting soon. This is today’s match report.
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In the meantime the Indian team showing the batsmen can't play spin. First ever test loss against Bangladesh on the cards.
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Pathetic batting. Very poor defense against spin. This is not a mine field by any stretch of imagination. Occasional ball is spinning and Mehidy is able to skid some. That pretty much it.
In this team, Iyer is the best player of spin in my opinion. Let's see if he can make it count.
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Finally Iyer and Ashwin see India home. Ashwin was dropped on 1 and hence lucky but the legend of Ashwin continues to grow.
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^^this is exactly why any bowler who refuses to learn how to just hang out even for a few overs when batting needs to be dropped. Kudos Ashwin and Shreyas. Surprised Shakib didn’t try pace until the very end for Shreyas. But, spinners were all over Indians until then.
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Right now our top order batsmen like Rahul and Kohli need to learn how to hang in for a few overs. Why blame the bowlers?
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rajitghosh wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 7:31 am Right now our top order batsmen like Rahul and Kohli need to learn how to hang in for a few overs. Why blame the bowlers?
Of course! That goes without saying.
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This match also shows up the team management for being idiots. Selecting three pacers neither of whom can bat is a crime. And that too dropping Kuldeep for that. While one can never say what would have happened, just look at the averages for pacers and spinners in this match. We should not forget that idiocy. Just seeing a bit of grass does not mean that our pacers will be better than spinners in the subcontinent. Unless there is serious grass, which there was not, we should always play three spinners and two pacers. Unless the third pacer is a serious bat a la Ashwin.
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SaniaFan wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 4:21 am In this team, Iyer is the best player of spin in my opinion. Let's see if he can make it count.
Iyer played tons of domestics. People like Gill did not. Gill did play 40 FC matches but maybe 10-12 are tests and a bunch of them are A-team tours, etc. outside India. That is the difference.

We can and should use horses for courses policy for the batsmen. The team management seems too trigger-happy to drop bowlers based on conditions but somehow believes the same is not useful for batsmen. Why? Clearly, there are batters who cannot play spin and those who cannot play pace and we should select based on conditions batters too.
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I can never forget how Kohli got his start in international cricket. In a test series in Sri Lanka, our Famous Five struggled against Murali and Ajantha Mendis. When the ODIs came along, our batsmen were still struggling against that pair, but young Kohli came in and tackled both with panache and real ability. So he was at one time a superb player of spin, but in the past 3 years he has forgotten some of the basics of playing spin -- using feet (front and back foot), playing with soft hands to counter bounce, etc. He definitely should have played this round of Ranji matches.
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Iyer was the MoS. Some idiot chose the MoS. Pujara played very well but Iyer was more in control and looked a class apart in the more bowlers' pitch.

Gill has failed. Largely. Still don't know what to do because I am reluctant to drop him. Rahul has failed for a long time and is not a good opener. Maybe Easwaran and Rohit for the Aussies if he is fit?
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It was absurd that Pujara (who failed in Mirpur) was adjudged Man of the Series. Ashwin even mentioned in his speech that he would gladly share MoM honours with Shreyas, but felt OK since the latter was going to be MoS -- but then the award surprisingly went to Pujara. Iyer batted well in all the 3 innings he played, and stabilized India's innings each time.
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Ashwin on the "Mirpur miracle" as he calls it. It is in Tamil but has English subtitles.

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Thanks for posting. Ashwin is a thinking cricketer. Arguably our best bowling allrounder after Kapil. Jadeja may be the best batting allrounder. Or really all round allrounder because of his fielding. Kapil was a great fielder too. Anyway, please keep posting these here.

Gill should be sent back to domestics to fix his issues and learn to play spin, etc. better.
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PKBasu wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:48 am I can never forget how Kohli got his start in international cricket. In a test series in Sri Lanka, our Famous Five struggled against Murali and Ajantha Mendis. When the ODIs came along, our batsmen were still struggling against that pair, but young Kohli came in and tackled both with panache and real ability. So he was at one time a superb player of spin, but in the past 3 years he has forgotten some of the basics of playing spin -- using feet (front and back foot), playing with soft hands to counter bounce, etc. He definitely should have played this round of Ranji matches.
I think it has something to do with age also. Kohli is touching 35. Our Famous Five were also on the wrong side of thirty at that time. May be the ability to concentrate and the eyesight are the reason for that decline for majority of the players. Of course there are exceptions.
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