T20 World Cup, 2022

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2022

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Kishen had around 14 matches.

U make great points and agree with it. And also KL for Pant probably is the best fit. Pant appears to be caught in two minds when he is playing in T20. The strategy against him is to bowl wide of the off stump. Hopefully he can figure it out. He is no where being closer to being a good finisher .

If Pant is playing , he needs to play as opener. May be KL can come in-as finisher.


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KL taking the gloves and playing at the middle order will give more option to the team.


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Rahul is actually slower when he opens but bats great in the MO wrt SR. Thanks for the data about Kishen. So, it should be that Karthik has to produce in the next tournament. Or else, he should not be taken to the WC if we have other better fits. Iyer?


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Re: T20 World Cup, 2022

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This is the line up i foresee.. even here, I don’t think KL will be played in MO and he will probably flip with Sky.

Rohit, SkY, kohli :puke: , Pant, :mrgreen: , KL, Pandya, Jadeja, shardul or Chahar(if fit), Chahal, Bhuvi, Arshdeep or Harshal

Substitutes Hooda (potentially in olace of Jadeja when line up is left heavy, but will leave our bowling little weak), Shreyas Iyer / DK

If Chahar is not fit, we could potentially see someone like Avesh Khan making it . Not sure if Shami is in our T20 plans. If he is , he probably makes it toplaying 11


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Australia Squad :

Aaron Finch (c), Ashton Agar, Pat Cummins, Tim David, Josh Hazlewood, Josh Inglis, Mitchell Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Kane Richardson, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Marcus Stoinis Matthew Wade, David Warner Adam Zampa


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England Squad :

Jos Buttler, Moeen Ali, Jonathan Bairstow, Harry Brook, Sam Curran, Chris Jordan, Liam Livingstone, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Phil Salt, Ben Stokes, Reece Topley, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood

Travelling Reserves: Liam Dawson, Richard Gleeson, Tymal Mills


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Seeing this two heavyweight teams it can be guessed the importance of player giving services both with bat & ball downunder in T20WC

Aussies have Marsh, Stoinis, Agar as allrounders.
Can ball Maxwell, Tim David, Steve Smith.
Can bat Cummins

English team has Stokes, Moeen, Sam Curran as allrounders. Cam ball Livingstone.
Can bat Willey, Woakes, Jordan, Rashid


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I would rate Maxwell as more of an allrounder than Agar. I do not mind including Agar but in T20Is, Maxwell is certainly a very good allrounder.


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India Squad :

Rohit Sharma (C), KL Rahul (VC), Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Deepak Hooda, R Pant (WK), Dinesh Karthik (WK), Hardik Pandya, R. Ashwin, Y Chahal, Axar Patel, Jasprit Bumrah, Bhuvaneswar Kumar, Harshal Patel, Arshdeep Singh

Standby players - Mohammad Shami, Shreyas Iyer, Ravi Bishnoi, Deepak Chahar


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Risabh Pant has got so much backing :D 58 T20Is with such poor perfotmance getting picked in WC with reason, as India has no left handers after Jadeja.Its a shame, We organize best T20 league in the world and can't pick a quality left hand batsman had to include a proven failure in the team

Zampa, Rashid, Fawad, Boyce wrist spinners ruling in Australian tracks https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... ype=trophy
And we have picked two finger spinner in WC Squad


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This is a shameful team. No amount of performance by Iyer, Bishnoi, etc. was enough to disentangle the so-called established guys: Pant, Karthik, Chahal, who have not performed for a long, long time. Anyway, hope these guys finally put up some fluke performances and we bring home a cup.

Wrt DLC vs Harshal, it is an interesting choice. Harshal is more of a wicket-taker but more wild. DLC is more restrictive and less of a strike bowler. Both can bat but DLC is perhaps better.


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Re: T20 World Cup, 2022

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Ashwin since his comeback in T20Is havent done anything to be included in T20WC. Infact Ashwin's spin will have similar effect like that of Hooda in Aus conditions.Hooda has the added advantage of batter who can bowl off spin. Ravi Bhisnoi should have been there instead of Ashwin


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Re: T20 World Cup, 2022

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Well, I will just quote the great Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but not their own facts.

Here is Ashwin's line since his return to T20Is
Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5
10 10 40.0 0 244 14 3/20 17.42 6.10 17.1 0 0
That is a fabulous bowling record. I do not know what more we want from him. You want him to get wickets at 9 runs/wicket and bowl at 3 runs/over in T20Is, really?

What you are saying is true. Wrist-spinners do better in T20Is than finger spinners. So, yes, I would have preferred a Bishnoi. But, in place of the hapless Chahal.

Here is Bishnoi:
Ravi Bishnoi 2022-2022 10 10 38.4 0 274 16 4/16 17.12 7.08 14.5 1 0 4 0
Slightly better than Ashwin wrt average and a whole run/over more expensive than him. Both played 10 matches. Ashwin always completed his quota and Bishnoi almost always did. The truth is perhaps that Bishnoi possibly bowled more overs at the beginning and at the end than Ashwin, when people go for more runs.

But, Ashwin can bat a bit better. And, has been batting faster more recently in the IPL etc. So, both deserve to be selected. We are very reluctant to cut our deadwood.

Oh, and wrt wrist-spinners vs. finger spinners, left-handed batters vs right-handed batters, left-handed bowlers vs right-handed bowlers, etc., absolutely, we should look at the situation and choose wrist spinners. But, when we do not have good wrist-spinners, we need to go back to good finger-spinners rather than bad wrist-spinners. When we do not have bowlers who can bowl yorkers and bouncers and contain the batters, we should go with the bowlers who sometimes are useful for other reasons. When we do not have left-handed batters, instead of going to the renegade Pant, we should actually reward either the Tilak Varmas or go with good right-handers such as Iyer, etc. That is the point. Blindly creating quotas for wrist-spinners, bowlers who bowl yorkers, left-handed bowlers and batters is useless if these people are poor cricketers. A right-handed SRT possibly played leggies better than a left-handed Hrishkesh Kanitkar. So, we need to consider player quality too --- not only single features such as left-handedness etc. That is where our selectors went wrong. They felt the need to get a left-hander and choose a dud who has not been that good.


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Re: T20 World Cup, 2022

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Among the top 7 nations (no Afghanistan, West Indies, or Bangladesh), the results are that there is also an overwhelming advantage of winning the toss in T20Is. Here are the numbers:
Teams Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/LDescending Ave RPO Inns HS LS
overall 7 2005-2022 579 315 238 13 13 1.323 24.93 8.06 571 254 60
This is a huge advantage. At least a 32% more win to loss ratio. This looks very bad for the game. It is more of a factor of luck than skill. That is not good. T20Is should be such that it should be played in two innings of 10 overs each. One team should bat first and last and the other team bats two innings in the middle. Or something like that to even the playing field. I do not exactly know what will work.

In the meantime, let us hope that Rohit is practising the toss day in and day out at the NCA.

Someone was saying that Dubai was very skewed towards the team batting second. Here are the numbers:
Host Country Teams Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/LDescending Ave RPO Inns HS LS
in Canada 2 2008-2008 5 5 0 0 0 - 21.64 7.07 5 153 - investigate this query
in Ireland 2 2021-2022 4 4 0 0 0 - 36.00 9.86 4 225 - investigate this query
in Scotland 2 2018-2022 3 3 0 0 0 - 41.60 10.40 3 254 - investigate this query
in Netherlands 1 2022-2022 1 1 0 0 0 - 21.14 7.40 1 148 - investigate this query
in U.A.E. 7 2009-2022 66 48 16 2 0 3.000 25.04 7.61 66 189 74 investigate this query
in Zimbabwe 4 2010-2021 14 10 4 0 0 2.500 28.42 7.87 14 183 99 investigate this query
in Pakistan 4 2008-2022 13 9 4 0 0 2.250 26.68 8.53 13 205 101 investigate this query
in India 7 2007-2022 68 43 23 0 2 1.869 27.85 8.26 66 230 87 investigate this query
in Bangladesh 7 2011-2021 35 21 14 0 0 1.500 23.39 7.38 35 204 60 investigate this query
in West Indies 7 2010-2022 46 26 18 0 2 1.444 25.41 7.93 44 215 126 investigate this query
in U.S.A. 2 2010-2022 8 4 3 0 1 1.333 22.68 7.87 8 244 81 investigate this query
in South Africa 7 2005-2021 80 41 37 2 0 1.108 26.40 8.46 80 241 86 investigate this query
in Sri Lanka 7 2009-2022 52 24 25 2 1 0.960 22.14 7.45 52 178 80 investigate this query
in New Zealand 7 2005-2021 61 25 29 6 1 0.862 24.63 8.74 60 243 101 investigate this query
in Australia 6 2006-2022 49 21 25 1 2 0.840 23.83 7.99 48 221 74 investigate this query
in England 7 2005-2022 74 30 40 0 4 0.750 23.12 8.00 72 215 88 investigate this query
We should demand that the UAE fix its grounds. Or else, not give them any matches. Ditto Zimbabwe, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, West Indies, U.S.A. or South Africa.

Only in Sri Lanka, New Zealand, Australia, and England do the toss winners actually lose more! Good that the WC is in Australia this year.


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Re: T20 World Cup, 2022

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I think toss should be done away with T20! Let us play T20 WC using the T20 world rankings and play knock out maches.

Rankings will be used to determine the opponent. Knock matches should be best of 3 with the top seed winning the toss the first game and lower seed the second game. If the series is tied at end of 2 games, let the top seed win the toss for decider or let the NRR between two teams decide the toss winner for decider.

IPL should follow the same pattern.home team wins the toss and the finals are best of 3!

Playing T20 as a single game final-winner is stupid