T20I World Cup 2021

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Re: T20I World Cup 2021

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I think the (my) no-doubters are: Kohli, Rohit, Rahul, Surya, Kishan, Hardik. I would have brought in Krunal and Iyer. They got Pant, who cannot really bat in T20Is. Or has not. We seem to be one bat short.

Our best T20I bowlers (pace) are Bumrah, DLC, Kumar, Nata, Saini. We got Bumrah, Kumar, and then got in Shami. Instead of Shami, I would have brought in Saini.

Bowlers (spin): Chahar and Jadeja select themselves. Varun does not take wickets. So that is a worry but he is extremely economical, I think. So, maybe Varun gets in. They got Ashwin for the sake of variety. I can live with that. But, why Axar. Instead of Axar, I would have brought in a batsman: Iyer. Or chosen Krunal, who is a much better bat (but worse bowler).

I guess Pant and Shami got in because of their test credentials. :-(
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Too many bowlers or bowler-all-rounders in the team ... MSD will be mentor for the team for T20 World Cup.
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jaydeep wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:51 pm Too many bowlers or bowler-all-rounders in the team ... MSD will be mentor for the team for T20 World Cup.
Is it prequel to MSD taking over from Shastri especially if Shastri is not interested to coach at the end of his contract?

They probably though that there is no one better than Ashwin at warming the bench, that they decided to take him. He is probably the fifth spinner of choice in the team. To take just one extra batsman, considering Rohit’s fitness level is just stupid. Should have dropped one or two of Ashwin/Shami/ Varun and taken a bat (shreyas Iyer or even Padaikkal). Team can still be changed upto some time and i expect couple of tweaks
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I would want Iyer and Krunal to make it in. But, we should look at IPL-rest and see who shines and take a person or two in form to milk their form.

Right now, we have exactly seven bats counting Pant, who has not shown that he can bat in LOIs and Hardik, who was in horrendous form. I think they are thinking of Jadeja as a batter but historically, he has never put it together in T20Is with the bat. So this is a hope and a prayer selection.

I like Dhoni's thinking mind but not the Dhoni method of leaving the bulk of the hitting to the last few overs. I like a more even chase. That causes less pressure to build up and fewer collapses.
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Iyer is too slow for this format; we don't need more accumulators when we already have Rohit, Kohli and Rahul. I would have wanted Prithwi ideally in the team. Also I like Ashwin's selection, he is our best spinner across all formats IMO. And I don't think he is going to warm the benches. I rather think Varun/Axar are going to take that role. There is 1 spinner too many, could have taken Prithwi instead.
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If Prithvi scores in the IPL, he should be brought in. I think there needs to be a balance between number of runs scored and SR. The problem with Pant, Jadeja, and Prithvi is that if I need a 1 ball six, I would surely want them, but if I need a 18 ball 25, I am not so sure that they can deliver. And, from the top 5-7, you would want a 25 with some consistency. I would be find picking Prithvi on potential only because there is nobody who has performed except the old three and Surya and Kishan. Maybe add Hardik. So, beyond this six, given no established batters. So, we can pick on hope and pick Prithvi, who is largely unexplored over the explored and failed batters in Pant and Jadeja. Everyone can turn things around (see Ishant in tests) though and so let's hope whoever plays goes and does the job for us.
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Krunal is like for like replacement for Jadeja. Iis he better than Axar? He is a better batsman than Axar, but i am not sure he is that good a bowler in international matches. His bowling performance is T20 series with england was ordinary.

If Jadeja can’t go (injury), we will probably going with three wk in the match (kishen, KL, Pant) like we did during england series and then play Rahul Chahar and Axar patel along with two seamers.

More and More, I think Pant should be dropped and Shreyas Iyer should have been picked.. We need an additional batsman.

I am not sure Prithvi Shaw is International quality . He may get away with it in UAE. I would like to see his averages against players with international cap.
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Pant is a better bad in T20Is than Jadeja. At least has performed better. I think. Let me check. Jadeja should be a #8.

My XI: Rohit, Kishan, Kohli, Rahul, Surya, Pant, Hardik, Jadeja, Kumar, Chahar, Bumrah.

Ask Rohit to bowl his off-spinners in the rest of the IPL.
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prasen9 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:27 am Pant is a better bad in T20Is than Jadeja. At least has performed better. I think. Let me check. Jadeja should be a #8.

My XI: Rohit, Kishan, Kohli, Rahul, Surya, Pant, Hardik, Jadeja, Kumar, Chahar, Bumrah.

Ask Rohit to bowl his off-spinners in the rest of the IPL.
I doubt we do that. Don’t trust Hardik and Jadeja to bowl their full quota. Kishan will probably ride the bench . Deepak Chahar makes sense to solidify the batting, but not sure if they will go with 4 seamers and two spinners. Balance is defintely off with this team. Too bowling heavy
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Kumar wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:59 pm https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news ... 78612.html

Ind squad for T20WC: Virat Kohli (Capt), Rohit Sharma (vc), KL Rahul, Suryakumar Yadav, Rishabh Pant (wk), Ishan Kishan (wk), Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja, Rahul Chahar, Ravichandran Ashwin, Axar Patel, Varun Chakravarthy, Jasprit Bumrah, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Mohd Shami.

So Shardul did not make it, but Shami did. Does not make sense,
Radical, maverick selection. Really bizarre actually -- the team is ludicrously bottom-heavy, with lots of bowlers but just 4 specialist batsmen (plus 2 'keeper-batsmen; Rahul being included among specialist bats). What'll happen if someone is injured? Clearly form on the tour to Sri Lanka wasn't a consideration -- because Hardik failed with the bat there, while Dhawan and Prithvi succeeded (but both are missing). Chahal being excluded is another big surprise. There really is no head or tail in this selection. I presume India (as hosts) will have a big say in the preparation of pitches, and will ensure that the pitches are spicy and spin-friendly. In reality only Sharjah in the UAE helps spinners, and India aren't scheduled to play there. Yet the squad is stacked with spinners :kookoo:
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Well, Prithvi has played only one T20I game and scored one big fat zero. That is why he is not selected in the team. I am okay with taking a flyer on him. I think we should just wait and see who performs well in the IPL-rest and take a batsman in form when someone is injured, which is bound to happen.
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Kumar wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:59 am
prasen9 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:27 am Pant is a better bad in T20Is than Jadeja. At least has performed better. I think. Let me check. Jadeja should be a #8.

My XI: Rohit, Kishan, Kohli, Rahul, Surya, Pant, Hardik, Jadeja, Kumar, Chahar, Bumrah.

Ask Rohit to bowl his off-spinners in the rest of the IPL.
I doubt we do that. Don’t trust Hardik and Jadeja to bowl their full quota. Kishan will probably ride the bench . Deepak Chahar makes sense to solidify the batting, but not sure if they will go with 4 seamers and two spinners. Balance is defintely off with this team. Too bowling heavy
Kishan riding the bench will be a travesty of justice. He has performed and Pant has not. If anything, we should have him as the first-choice wk. If these people cannot bowl 4 overs, then they should be dropped from the team. I can understand that having a sixth bowler is useful and I am fine in choosing Ashwin in that role instead of Pant, the weakest (non-performing) bat but Pant has name-recognition and name-only and not performance goes a long way in India. Ashwin because he is the best bat and the person who spins the ball a different way than Jaddu and Chahar. Remember the Chahar is Rahul Chahar and not DLC.
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It is very likely that one or two of the three spinners (Axar , Ashwin and Varun) will be replaced by a batsmen.

Not sure why ICC allows two deadlines for team selection. If players can be changed, the first deadline is meaningless, unless the change can be made only under certain conditions?
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I am wondering if India will have a huge issue in Wc, because we don’t have too many fresh legs. Kohli looked very jaded.
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Mayank is/was in very good form in the IPL. Somehow he does not keep getting picked.

If you look at the Indian batsmen who at least have scored 200 runs by SR, the following is the order in this IPL:

160+: Shaw,

140+: Padikkal, Sampson, Mayank,

135+: Rahul, Dhawan, Gaikwad,

130+: Pant,

120+: Rohit, Kohli.

Shaw and Padikkal should have been in the team and backup respectively.
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