India in England, summer of 2021
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I think it will be Siraj instead of prasidh. Also Bharath for Vihari.
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Squads for 3 T20Is & 3Odis ( WSL) against England
India's squad for 1st T20I:
Rohit Sharma (c), Ishan Kishan, Ruturaj Gaekwad, Sanju Samson, Suryakumar Yadav, Deepak Hooda, Rahul Tripathi, Dinesh Karthik (wk), Hardik Pandya, Venkatesh Iyer, Yuzvendra Chahal, Axar Patel, Ravi Bishnoi, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Harshal Patel, Avesh Khan, Arshdeep Singh, Umran Malik
India's squad for 2nd and 3rd T20I:
Rohit Sharma (c), Ishan Kishan, Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Deepak Hooda, Shreyas Iyer, Dinesh Karthik (wk), Rishabh Pant (wk), Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja, Yuzvendra Chahal, Axar Patel, Ravi Bishnoi, Jasprit Bumrah, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Avesh Khan, Harshal Patel, Umran Malik
India's squad for ODIs:
Rohit Sharma (c), Shikhar Dhawan, Ishan Kishan, Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Shreyas Iyer, Rishabh Pant (wk), Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja, Shardul Thakur, Yuzvendra Chahal, Axar Patel, J Bumrah, Prasidh Krishna, Mohd Shami, Mohd Siraj, Arshdeep Singh
India's squad for 1st T20I:
Rohit Sharma (c), Ishan Kishan, Ruturaj Gaekwad, Sanju Samson, Suryakumar Yadav, Deepak Hooda, Rahul Tripathi, Dinesh Karthik (wk), Hardik Pandya, Venkatesh Iyer, Yuzvendra Chahal, Axar Patel, Ravi Bishnoi, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Harshal Patel, Avesh Khan, Arshdeep Singh, Umran Malik
India's squad for 2nd and 3rd T20I:
Rohit Sharma (c), Ishan Kishan, Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Deepak Hooda, Shreyas Iyer, Dinesh Karthik (wk), Rishabh Pant (wk), Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja, Yuzvendra Chahal, Axar Patel, Ravi Bishnoi, Jasprit Bumrah, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Avesh Khan, Harshal Patel, Umran Malik
India's squad for ODIs:
Rohit Sharma (c), Shikhar Dhawan, Ishan Kishan, Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Shreyas Iyer, Rishabh Pant (wk), Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja, Shardul Thakur, Yuzvendra Chahal, Axar Patel, J Bumrah, Prasidh Krishna, Mohd Shami, Mohd Siraj, Arshdeep Singh
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Re: India in England, summer of 2021
Gill started playing too many shorts. No respect to condition. Pujara playing bad short not acceptable from a senior pro. Kohli too much cautious because of no runs, confidenceless. Shreyas as expected, he will be targeted in rib cage throughout the series
Nothing to say terrible performance.
Nothing to say terrible performance.
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Re: India in England, summer of 2021
There is no point analyzing. Our batting has been awful for a while, a long while. The bowlers are saving them and we need to kick out the old guard, accept we will lose and test the youngsters out and build a new team. Yes, the newbies Gill and Iyer are also useless but if we give them 15 tests or so and they do not improve chuck them out too and bring in the next set. At some point, someone will figure it out and be able to bat a bit overseas.
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Too much promoting IPL and not taking care of 4 day domestic matches is hurting the team. This Jay Shah & Co. is threat to indian domestic cricket, no A tours, no resumption of Duleep Trophy, only dreams of extended IPL, TV rights is destroying our well build test set up.
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Another high quality test innings from Pant. Hope he continues.
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How does Ranji and Duleep trophy help if none of our national players participate? We need to send our players to domestic leagues around the world. Playing in India is one dimensional and of limited use.Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:41 pm Too much promoting IPL and not taking care of 4 day domestic matches is hurting the team. This Jay Shah & Co. is threat to indian domestic cricket, no A tours, no resumption of Duleep Trophy, only dreams of extended IPL, TV rights is destroying our well build test set up.
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Re: India in England, summer of 2021
Pant is already in the top-5 most impactful Indian batsmen in SENA.
It is also a shame that Jadeja was injured in SA. We would have finally won a series if he wasn't.
It is also a shame that Jadeja was injured in SA. We would have finally won a series if he wasn't.
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Ranji is for all sort of talents and Duleep is shortlisted best performers from Ranji. Duleep is that tournament where BCCI used to do lots of experiment like playing in green pitches, with pink ball which gave feel to the players to be selected for A tour, it also included national team players who gets dropped or new to the senior team. Our players are busy and multi format players doesnt have time for foreign domestic league and BCCI was very much in providing those conditions through domestic tournament. Importantance of four day game reduced post covid time, indian domestic structure was on full praise when team on series in Australia. Last two years we didnt have four day games enough to keep our players ready for the purest formatAtithee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:56 pmHow does Ranji and Duleep trophy help if none of our national players participate? We need to send our players to domestic leagues around the world. Playing in India is one dimensional and of limited use.Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:41 pm Too much promoting IPL and not taking care of 4 day domestic matches is hurting the team. This Jay Shah & Co. is threat to indian domestic cricket, no A tours, no resumption of Duleep Trophy, only dreams of extended IPL, TV rights is destroying our well build test set up.
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So much runs available once the duke become old, condition changes and our quality top order can't show respect to new ball, can't wait for things to ease out. This approach is unacceptable from a quality top order batters.
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Gill is a failure. Vihari is barely okay. And Shreyas has flaws. Kohli has been going downhill for some time.
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On current form and in this pitch, 415 seems significantly low. Also,india score almost at 5 runs clip and I expect England to score at similar rate. With the way, Bumrah was playing, Siraj should have just given strike to Bumrah. India scored 35 runs in one over, a world record in Test match.
Would India miss Ashwin? Can Vihari turn his arm over against lefties.
I hope they never make Pant a captain. I don’t think his game will be so entertaining once he is made captain.
Would India miss Ashwin? Can Vihari turn his arm over against lefties.
I hope they never make Pant a captain. I don’t think his game will be so entertaining once he is made captain.
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Re: India in England, summer of 2021
India will never miss Ashwin SA,England or NZ tracks as it has nothing for the finger spinners unless batters play rash shorts and throw away his wickets, bounce in Australian tracks will definately give him success, his batting also has gone down when its come to playing in SENA condition.In recent test series in SA he never looked threatening.
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Re: India in England, summer of 2021
Ashwin has been horrible in Australia with the ball averaging 42. In England, he has done well at 28.11. In New Zealand, he averages 33. In RSA, 50. So, contrary to what very esteemed pundits say, he has been good in England. He cannot bowl very well in bouncy pitches but where the ball is moving, he bowls fine. That is also borne by the fact that in India he has bowled well with the new ball. The new ball moves a bit more sideways and accentuates his spin or lack thereof.
I actually support having Jadeja because he is a better bat. And, the four seamers, I will defer to the team management thinking that on this pitch and in these conditions Thakur or Siraj is better than Ashwin and a decent pacer is more useful than a great spinner. We will see.
Laker, Verity, Lock, Underwood, Swann, etc. have done very well in England. There is no reason a good finger spinner cannot get wickets in England.
I actually support having Jadeja because he is a better bat. And, the four seamers, I will defer to the team management thinking that on this pitch and in these conditions Thakur or Siraj is better than Ashwin and a decent pacer is more useful than a great spinner. We will see.
Laker, Verity, Lock, Underwood, Swann, etc. have done very well in England. There is no reason a good finger spinner cannot get wickets in England.
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Re: India in England, summer of 2021
Problem is you need Jadeja because he is good with the bat. So do we need two spinners? Maybe not. Feel bad for Ashwin because he is a better bowler than Jadeja. Way better.