England in India, February-March 2021

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Re: England in India, February-March 2021

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Ok. Done. Time to pay NZ back. Who is responsible for pitch prep at Lords? ECB?


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I guess Lords pitch will have so much grass that you won't be able to distinguish it from the outfield


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Why? Who decides?


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Obviously the ECB. After their thrashing on spin friendly tracks in India I doubt they'll provide a pitch that would help spinners.


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Re: England in India, February-March 2021

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I don’t think so. I believe it’s ICC. Even if England were playing, ECB wouldn’t get to prepare the pitch.


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Pant played a knock of 101 runs in the first innings which Shastri termed as the best counter-attacking innings he has ever seen in India.

But once Ashwin sent back Root, it was all about delaying the humiliation for the English batsmen. Ashwin picking up Jonny Bairstow for a golden duck only added to England's misery. The performance of our current cricket team is outstanding.
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Fabulous performance by India! Sundar has the highest average in this test series! Axar gets 27 wickets, but will probably miss the next test match
Article in espn about Sundar!

Couple of great quotes from Ashwin
Washy bowled in some of the IPL franchises, and he shot to fame because of his bowling in the powerplay and all that, [but] it's quite surprising that people don't recognise that he grew up all his life as a batsman who can bowl," Ashwin said during his post-match press conference on Saturday
"I'm not in any position to tell Washy to go open, or bat at three," Ashwin said. "But ideally, if there's an upcoming talent like him, it makes logical sense when he goes back to his state team, for him to bat at No. 3 or No. 4. In fact, Washy is an opening bat. I think he should go back to first-class cricket and probably start opening or batting at three
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ind- ... ce-1254008

It looks more and more like Sundar can get in only as specialist batsman in England and is very unlikely!


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Great victory. I think Washington Sundar is worthy of playing as a batting all-rounder. Ironically, that will actually put Ashwin's place in the side in some jeopardy outside India! Jadeja and Washy could play, and Ashwin may have to sit out. At home, it will be a close contest between Jadeja and Axar for the bowling all-rounder's slot -- although Jadeja clearly has the edge.

Washington's best first class match was the Duleep Trophy final of 2017, when he took 11 wickets (6 in the second innings, when he took the new ball), and scored 88 and 42 batting at #7 and #6. Here is that scoreboard: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/dul ... -scorecard


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The reality is that India lost the first test in Chennai not just because England won the toss and the pitch was relatively docile, but because Axar was absent injured. There was a vast difference between Shahbaz Nadeem and Axar Patel, partly also because Shahbaz wasn't in the squad and came in rather under-cooked in the first innings. Plus of course the absence of a crowd helped England, because the normal Indian test atmosphere and support for the home side didn't exist.


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After Ashwin's performance in Australia, I don't think he will be left out, unless he suffers a complete loss in form or gets injured. So it is very unlikely Sundar will feature in playing XI once Jadeja comes back. The team will be very well balanced in England, the only worry is the form of our middle order Pujara/Kohli/Rahane. But it seems unlikely any of these will get dropped for such an important series. I really don't know why they don't give any opportunities to Iyer; why has be been earmarked for white ball cricket, when his game seems more suited to the longer format?


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I think India will probably lose the WTC finals! NZ will have played two test series just before the finals! Our players will be in IPL form! They will be playing when conditions are very good for pace bowlers! Considering that English series is later in summer when ball probably does not swing much, India probably has a better chance unless the pitch is pretty green

I hope Vihari takes his opportunity and get county experience if possible! If he can show some form, may be he can make the team in top 6! should definitely be in the playing 11 as one of the three pacers!


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Re: England in India, February-March 2021

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Some startling averages showing the failure of top order(2-5)
Shocked to see Ashwin had more runs than Kohli in this series

Rohit 57, Pant 54, Sundar 90, Ashwin 31, Kohli 28 round out the top 5!
Pujara 22, Gill 19 and Rahane 18


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PKBasu wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:20 pm The reality is that India lost the first test in Chennai not just because England won the toss and the pitch was relatively docile, but because Axar was absent injured. There was a vast difference between Shahbaz Nadeem and Axar Patel, partly also because Shahbaz wasn't in the squad and came in rather under-cooked in the first innings. Plus of course the absence of a crowd helped England, because the normal Indian test atmosphere and support for the home side didn't exist.
All of that. Plus, I think the pitch was bad. It was flat the first two days and deadly the last 1.5 days. Such variation in a pitch makes it a toss-dependent game. Yes, Axar may have prevented 500+ and we would have then batted in better conditions. But, Ashwin was there and was countered easily. I doubt Axar would have prevented 400 given the flat nature of the pitch. Pitches should not change drastically over the match. That makes a bad, unfair pitch.

We should seriously think of getting Sundar to open in the warmup match in the A-team. He is too good a bat to sit out.

England will be home conditions for New Zealand unless ICC prepares a fair pitch. Let us hope they do and the match becomes a contest.


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I like Sundar where he is, especially if playing overseas. He will surely be called upon to bat, if he’s in the team. The problem is that he doesn’t fit in the current team if all first choice players are available. Anyway, if doesn’t get to bat, that should imply sufficient runs at the top. At home, maybe worth a shot, but I think it’s Ajinkya who needs to move to open or one down and Pujara and Kohli move one spot down. Kohli batting one spot later may actually be a good thing as he plays spin better than Rahane.

Or, the daring solution is to have him replace one of Rahane and Pujara. Or, at least put the two on notice. I still can’t believe Pujara will play IPL.


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So, what will be the most likely T20I team? Not the one that you or I would want but one that we think is most likely?

Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Pant, Rahul, Hardik, Sundar, Bhuvi, Chahar, Chahal, Nata.

I would like:

Rahul (c), Kishan, Iyer, Pant, Tewatia, Surya, Axar, Shardul, Chahar, Varun, Nata.