India in Australia, 2020-21

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Re: India in Australia, 2020-21

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indiansportsfan wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:32 am This is just amazing relentless bowling.
We have seen Ishant, Bumrah, and Shami do this. These guys are perhaps a touch better. Umesh is the one who bothers me after so many years. He has the talent. I hope he can be similarly disciplined in the 2nd innings as can Siraj.
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Re: India in Australia, 2020-21

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Pujara gone... there is no value to these kind of innings on these pitches and against this bowling attack. If you allow them to settle, they will get you. Aussie bowlers are a machine!

Rather atleast show intent, atleast rotate strike; keep the scoreboard moving, chip away the deficit, rather than unproductive long stay on.the wicket, High time he (Pujara) is shown the door.
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The problem is that we have no youngsters knocking on the door. Rahul was horrible before he was chucked out and he did not play Ranjis except one match. If you want to try Prithvi, I am fine. With Gill dropping down to #3. Pujara has to be told to rotate the strike. Or look to do that. I agree that sitting at the wicket when you keep missing the ball/edge is useless.
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Re: India in Australia, 2020-21

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The whole Pujara thing is nonsense imo.

One of our openers always goes early in SENA and sometimes both, and we saw exactly what happens if Pujara doesn't blunt the new ball in the Adelaide. 36 all out.

None of these guys like Rahane, Vihari have a chance against a new ball with fresh bowlers.
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We still lose. What is the point? Get the youngsters in. And, now Rahane is even slower than Pujara. He better stick it out.
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I agree with Sin Hombre that Pujara is valuable in blunting the new ball; however once the ball gets old and faster bowlers get tired, he should look at scoring runs off the spinners/part timers. The worst outcome is if you don't score any runs off the old ball, and then get out just before the new ball is due. The lower middle order/tail will have no chance against the new ball.
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Right. He does not need to hit out crazily. He just needs to try to defend with an eye towards getting a single now and then.
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Re: India in Australia, 2020-21

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prasen9 wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:10 am We still lose. What is the point? Get the youngsters in. And, now Rahane is even slower than Pujara. He better stick it out.
The point is the middle order needs to play faster between overs 30 and 80. Need to score at least 175 runs in those 50 overs without losing more than a couple.

Bowlers are tired, the ball is old and those are the best batting conditions.

When Kohli is not there in those overs, we don't and we lose. Otherwise, we win as we did in our last series in Aus.
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Do we have a choice? At this point with Pant again letting go a good opportunity to score, we let go an opportunity give a minimum hundred run lead. Our best hope is we score 250+ at any speed and hope this is enough for our bowlers to do the job. With Aussie batting line up looking very average, we can indeed be hopeful.
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Pant changed the momentum of the match and got Rahane going as well. Would have liked him to do more but he never does.

Rishabh Pant in Tests in Australia:
25
28
36
30
39
33
159*
29 (today)


12 byes conceded by Tim Paine. This is a tough pitch to keep on with balls bouncing crazy high randomly.
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Sin Hombre wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:25 pm With regards to Indian batting, I agree Vishnu is the only one who thinks the lineup in this test is our best ever in SENA.
India's best line up in SENA for sometime vs best ever : hugely varying meaning and interpretation :). I rate this batting line up better than the first test and the ones we had in the last 3-4 years where probably we haven't touched/crossed 300 outside of those innings with centuries from Pant.
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Re: India in Australia, 2020-21

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Pant did show intent, but got out to a poor shot!let us look at the silver lining we may get first innings lead! ! How many times have we done it abroad! Let us enjoy this small victories! I wish we had an exciting youngster to look forward to! That is the saddest part of this tour!
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The previous Australia pitches were dead batting pitches. This year we have more lively pitches.
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Re: India in Australia, 2020-21

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Sin Hombre wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:56 am The point is the middle order needs to play faster between overs 30 and 80. Need to score at least 175 runs in those 50 overs without losing more than a couple.

Bowlers are tired, the ball is old and those are the best batting conditions.

When Kohli is not there in those overs, we don't and we lose. Otherwise, we win as we did in our last series in Aus.
We slowed down a bit and scored 152/2 between overs 30 and 80.

New ball is up and we only have a 37 runs lead.
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Re: India in Australia, 2020-21

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Amazing century, but couple of life for Rahane! Still a great effort to take advantage of the chances!
They lead by 82 runs

Temperature is dropping significantly tomorrow going down to 60 degrees, so would not expect us to last very long! Would be happy with 100 run lead
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