India in New Zealand ODIs, 2019

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Re: India in New Zealand ODIs, 2019

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If you do not have bowlers, you end up giving 200 or something like that and then even if you have a good batting lineup, your batsmen have no time to settle down and are trying to hit every ball and getting out. So you need some bowling teeth. I think if we bring Kuldeep instead of Krunal, we should have a better XI. All of the folks who are young are pretty much duds too. We need someone to develop and improve and stake their claim.

Mavi is good in FC cricket. I could go in ODIs with him but he does not have the discipline to be a T20 bowler now. Loose balls per over.

Nagarkoti for ODIs is perhaps fine. But he has not played T20s yet. Let him try to do something in the IPL.

Siraj looks very good in domestics and A-team games but he too bowls a few loose balls per over. Needs more control on line and length.

Avesh Khan - wicket-taker but no control. So not good for ODIs and T20Is.

Saini is maybe good in T20s and barely for ODIs.

Rajpoot has done well in FC cricket and T20s but curiously not in List-As.

Deshpande has been fine in FC and List-As but totally out of his league in T20s.

Dube is good but very expensive in T20s.

Everyone has major flaws. Just putting them in based on hope is not going to do anything good. People will then say they are useless and pine for the next 19 year old. See Khalil. Khalil needs to be groomed. He can put on some muscles a la Bhuvi and then do well. None of them will do well today. So, replacing any one of them with the other is pointless.

I may not mind having Pandya and Bhuvi opening and then having Krunal, Vijay cover 10 overs and Chahal and Kuldeep as the specialist bowlers.
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Re: India in New Zealand ODIs, 2019

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T20I results do not matter.

Every team, barring Pakistan, uses it for experimentation and giving younger players exposure to international cricket. There is zero point of playing 37 year old Dhoni who then proceeds to drop their top scorer for 17 and scores 39 off 31 when we were chasing 220. And playing DK as an outfielder which means he dropped a couple as well. Absolutely no reason to play Kuldeep either.

Khaleel is a trundler whose balls do nothing. Bhuvi was a trundler who could move the ball both ways. There really is no comparison. Let's not waste any more time on Khaleel. Was a weird choice to promote to begin with.

None of the names mentioned is ready and won't ever get ready by just playing domestically.

Red ball situation is slightly better. I would chuck in Siraj and Mavi against Zim at home, if and when that test happens. With Ashwin and Jadeja, even if the two fail, we will still win.

White ball, we just need to experiment. We have T20Is at home against Aus. Play Nagarkoti if he is fit, play Saini, play Rajpoot. Let's see if any of them show potential against the likes of Finch, Head, Maxwell.
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Khalil moved the ball both ways in India. I think experimenting with the white ball will give us diddly squat. We have experimented a lot. What have we got? We have Bumrah and maybe Shami. That is it.

If the players are not doing well in the domestics, then they can and must improve in the domestics before they should be given chances in the A-team and internationals.

The only player who can say that they have not much to learn in the domestics among the youngsters is Siraj. All of the others can improve their domestic performance and should before they graduate. There is also no point in sending someone into the international competition half-baked as we did with Khalil and he got tonked. Every other player will face the same threat in NZ.

Now at home, I am fine with trying Siraj and Mavi as the two pacers. Although at home, Umesh will possibly come back.

I would not play Dhoni at the T20Is abroad too. But I think now they are thinking about the T20I world cup or whatever.
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Bumrah and Shami are arguably our best quick bowlers in LOI cricket in the last 20 overs so getting additional bowlers at that level will never be easy.
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Good match for all the new guns except Khaleel who bowled and fielded terribly as per usual.

Shankar remains the find of the series, batted extremely well again.

Pant, DK, both Pandyas batted exactly like modern T20 players on small grounds with flat pitches, going big right from the start.

Dhawan was terrible again. Outside of a small purple patch in SA, he has never shown any competence in this format. Hopefully we don't carry him into the T20 WC in 2020.

Rohit is also a slow starter which means India are the worst team in the batting powerplay. Rohit can at least catch up so might not be a liability if paired with someone who can go bang-bang from the start.

Dhoni was terrible again. Everyone knows that he can't hit anymore and will easily get bogged down especially at the start of his innings. If he decides to keep playing until the T20 WC, we are doomed.

Krunal's darting does not work on these grounds.
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Rohit stayed on until the 13th over or so. If you are staying that long, you cannot bat at a run a ball or so. Dhawan should not be in our T20I team. It should be Rahul. Only format where he has played well. Instead of Khalil, we should have played Kaul. Or Siraj. (Choosing among the 15 here)
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