National Cricket Team Players (India)

[Kumar]

Well, Rohit could become a captain of white ball cricket

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news ... 96075.html

[Kumar]

Kohli officially stepping down as T20 captain after wc

[jaydeep]

Yes, he made a tweet regarding that.

[Atithee]

Good. It takes courage to take such a step. I just wish we appoint a young one to groom him now and not hand over the captaincy to Rohit. There’s no doubt that Rohit is a proven captain, but we need to look forward.

[prasen9]

Which would mean Rahul. But, I am not so sure about him. Somehow we do not like appointing bowlers. But, maybe we can make an exception. I would be excited to see Bumrah. He is a thinking guy.

[Kumar]

@Prasen, Should we use this thread or domestic thread? What do u think?

An article providing pathway for Ishant to make a comeback

https://indianexpress.com/article/sport ... r-7786133/

For motivation, Ishant could look towards Anderson and Stuart Broad. Anderson seemed a force on the wane in 2015, before masterfully adding more tools to his kitty; like the more profuse use of the leg-cutter, wobble-seamer, reverse movement from a good length (as when he scythed through India at Chepauk last year), better use of the old ball, and an absolute mastery on batsmen’s mind. After his 33rd birthday, the England legend gulped 227 wickets at an average of 21, as opposed to his pre-33 average of 29.

Does Ishant have the fitness of those guys to sustain his career?

I know the team mgmt is looking to future. The non selection of Saha is a forward looking decision, but can be questioned from individual perspective especially when the said player is probably a better batsman and a keeper. Could KS Bharath gain experience by carrying drinks or actually continuing to play Ranji. I guess covid probably rules out joining the team at short notice(does those bio bubble make sense any more)? None of the American sports leagues have it and it is past time, we do away with it.


Would it not help both Pant and KS that Saha is part of the team providing his expertise as 2-3rd wicket keeper and doubling up as the WK coach as well?

[prasen9]

Hi Kumar, at the end, it is what the community thinks. I thought that I would create a thread for the issues related to them that are not strictly speaking related to domestic cricket and it does not get buried in that long thread. So, in your case, my opinion is that this post could go to either thread. But, I think relatively speaking, this thread is the correct one.

I think we should never tell anyone that we will never pick someone. We should just say that we will try to build our bench strength and give chances to our younger players. That leaves the door open that we can go to them if needed. Dravid possibly made that indirect suggestion with good intentions but as we see now, it could be seen differently. Instead of a negative phrasing (we will not pick you), if they phrase it positively (it is vital to give our young players chances to see if they can cut it. We have three tests this year and will give them those.) then people do not feel that hurt. It is a communication thing, imho.

[Omkara]

I think Dravid did the right thing. He has clarified the same. He himself got the news from media when he was dropped years ago. He was playing well and Dhoni just wanted a younger and fitter team. So, this is a good precedent. No player who is being dropped will react nicely. Especially when he has couple of more years with him/her. So ideally more clarity from the bcci will help. But it should come from Ganguly.

[prasen9]

Has Jadeja learned to bat in T20Is? Wisden thinks so. I would want six proper bats before him including VIyer. That would make the batting lineup deep given that our last few are total duds unlike other teams'. The second spinner cannot bat (unless we are getting Sundar, but, I think the other spinner will be a wrist spinner, which means he is a dud). The three pacers cannot largely bat though Bumrah is improving. Bhuvi could bat but he has regressed with the bat. Hopefully, he will get his batting chops back in this IPL.

[prasen9]

It is great to see Pujara back in form. Given his stellar career and the general inability of newbies to play the swinging ball and the practice he is getting, he should be considered for the one-off test in England this summer. Rahane, on the other hand, has had a lesser career, albeit with a better SENA record, and should not be considered given his lack of form.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

It will be worst decision if Pujara make into the playing XI for one off test against England. They can't be unfair with Vihari, with only 2 tests at n.o 3. Vihari also has one 50 in his name at n.o 3. Pujara might return to the team as extended squad might travell keeping in mind covid regulation.Vihari should be given fair amount of chances at n.o 3 before giving Pujara another chance.
Sarfaraz Khan's name should also be raised with 551 runs in 3 Ranji Games and innings of 71* for India A in South Africa

[prasen9]

Generally agree with you. But, form and practice in conditions is important. Vihari has done okay in trying conditions abroad. Nothing great, nothing shoddy either. Iyer for the #5 slot. I won't mind if Vihari is given chances. There is currently no space for Sarfaraz but he should be in the extended team traveling to England as a backup.

[prasen9]

It was great that Pujara did not get picked by an IPL team and went to play county cricket. I wish Rahane had been the same. That way, KKR would also not have those slow meaningless starts and may have won a game or two more here and there.

[prasen9]

So, there was these random innings picked to show that Bradman was the worst batter in the history of cricket in another post recently by picking the innings where he scored zeros. Etc. I wanted to examine the issue of who among our T20I players have the worst record in the last 3 years against the top five teams: Australia, England, New Zealand, Pakistan, and South Africa. Here are the numbers. Several of them have not played 15 innings, which is sort of the minimum to say anything conclusively except that they failed in a few innings here and there. But, a lot of these players played close to 10, which is what we will have to use I suppose although any conclusions are going to be somewhat tenous. Having said that, let us see what comes out:

Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SRDescending 100 50 0 4s 6s
SA Yadav 2021-2022 12 11 0 365 117 33.18 215 169.76 1 2 1 39 17 investigate this query
RA Jadeja 2019-2022 11 8 4 200 46* 50.00 139 143.88 0 0 0 16 7 investigate this query
RG Sharma 2019-2022 19 19 1 531 65 29.50 374 141.97 0 5 1 45 31 investigate this query
Ishan Kishan 2021-2022 10 10 0 307 76 30.70 217 141.47 0 3 0 33 15 investigate this query
HH Pandya 2019-2022 21 18 5 425 51 32.69 304 139.80 0 1 1 34 19 investigate this query
KD Karthik 2022-2022 9 8 3 122 55 24.40 90 135.55 0 1 0 15 4 investigate this query
V Kohli 2019-2022 20 20 4 724 85 45.25 551 131.39 0 7 1 52 23 investigate this query
SS Iyer 2019-2022 23 21 6 459 67 30.60 354 129.66 0 2 1 30 21 investigate this query
KL Rahul 2020-2022 18 18 1 449 65 26.41 358 125.41 0 4 4 36 17 investigate this query
S Dhawan 2019-2021 6 6 0 161 52 26.83 131 122.90 0 1 0 15 5 investigate this query
RR Pant 2019-2022 20 19 3 308 39 19.25 269 114.49 0 0 0 26 11 investigate this query

SAY, Jadeja, Rohit seemed to have played well. Interestingly, Kishan played reasonably well against the top-5 but failed badly against the others. Baffling! Pandya has been good, Karthik barely acceptable and the rest have been junk.

No points for guessing who came last wrt *both* SR and averages. And that is over 16 dismissals, so there is some strength of support to that data.

So, no SAY has played the top-5 reasonably well. If anyone, Pant, Dhawan, Rahul, and Iyer are the ones who have not. Add Kohli to that.

[prasen9]

If you want to look at the last two years, here it is:

Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SRDescending 100 50 0 4s 6s
SA Yadav 2021-2022 12 11 0 365 117 33.18 215 169.76 1 2 1 39 17 investigate this query
RA Jadeja 2020-2022 6 6 3 171 46* 57.00 117 146.15 0 0 0 15 5 investigate this query
HH Pandya 2020-2022 19 17 5 411 51 34.25 286 143.70 0 1 1 33 19 investigate this query
RG Sharma 2021-2022 13 13 0 370 64 28.46 261 141.76 0 3 1 32 22 investigate this query
Ishan Kishan 2021-2022 10 10 0 307 76 30.70 217 141.47 0 3 0 33 15 investigate this query
KD Karthik 2022-2022 9 8 3 122 55 24.40 90 135.55 0 1 0 15 4 investigate this query
V Kohli 2020-2022 14 14 3 538 85 48.90 404 133.16 0 6 1 40 18 investigate this query
SS Iyer 2020-2022 16 14 3 285 67 25.90 216 131.94 0 1 1 21 12 investigate this query
RR Pant 2021-2022 18 17 3 285 39 20.35 244 116.80 0 0 0 25 10 investigate this query
KL Rahul 2020-2022 13 13 0 225 65 17.30 203 110.83 0 2 4 20 7 investigate this query

Almost similar except Kishan cools down a bit but with fewer innings to judge.