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Creating a thread for players who represented India. We have a domestic players thread but for the internationals we have to stick it in to domestics or in the respective series that is on-going.

Rohit Sharma seems to be becoming a domestic dada. He has only succeeded in India (9 tests) and had done decently in New Zealand (2 tests, avg. 40). He has failed miserably (under 35 and in most cases under 30) in Australia, England, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, West Indies, South Africa. Don't know why we are taking him to RSA. Maybe he has truly improved? My gut feeling says "no", but let's see.
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On Pant's keeping and going forward: Former Keepers So even though his batting may be okay, his keeping needs a lot of work it seems. There is no point going back to Parthiv or Karthik. Let's have Bharat if we want to drop Pant. Of course, there is very little chance that that will happen in the first test against WI. But, if he keeps badly, we may see Bharat, MSK's favorite from his state. Bharat is a good keeper but I do not know if he is the best after Saha. Among the top 4/5 young keepers in India, he is possibly the worst bat too despite his triple century in the Ranjis. He did score a century against Australia A and was the highest scorer in the innings, a match that India won though. He averages about 36 in the Indian domestics, which should project to about 23 or so internationally?

Here are the international and domestic averages of our keepers batting-wise:

Dhoni 37, 38 (+1)
Saha 43, 31 (-12)
Parthiv 44, 31 (-13)

Karthik 41, 25 (-16)
Mongia 38, 24 (-14)
More 31, 26 (-5)
Kirmani 30, 27 (-3)

Going by more recent trend, except Dhoni, Bharat should be projected to about mid 20s batting-wise. Of course, the projection can be wrong; that is why they play the game.
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Dhoni has played 10 completed ODI innings this year and averages 25.2 at a SR of 68. He is 37. Why do we not move on to Pant? Kohli has this 0ld-guy-ism flaw in his captaincy. He mistreated Nair and forced the selectors to bring back Rohit, a proven failure. We need some selectors with some b*lls instead of the wimp MSK.
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He is slowly creeping up to Kapil as far as Indian legends shameless prolonging their career goes.
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Sin Hombre wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:43 am He is slowly creeping up to Kapil as far as Indian legends shameless prolonging their career goes.
and Sachin.
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Sachin was ordinary in tests for two whole years 2012-2013 before he retired. Dhoni has been a liability for a year and not a finisher for longer than that. In ODIs, Sachin had one bad year 2012 and then went away. Interestingly, he played one T20I and scored 10 runs. Why did they even get him if they were to play him only one match?
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Yes, a beautiful article on Pujara. Thanks for posting it!
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What an excellent read! Few pieces of it made me emotional. If Pujara ever wants his (auto)biography to be written, he should pick this writer.

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Hardik is also out with a back issue. He may be out for five months or so if he has to get surgery. When is our next away tour?
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prasen9 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:55 pm Hardik is also out with a back issue. He may be out for five months or so if he has to get surgery. When is our next away tour?
NZ in Jan/Feb 2020.
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Ah. A bad place not to have Hardik. We need to ask Bhuvi to bulk up his batting in the next three months. Shami, Ishant, Bhuvi will be good. Of course, Bumrah walks in place of Shami if fit.
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Pant is not that bad a keeper. He has the highest dismissals/innings among keepers who have 20 dismissals in test cricket in the last decade. But, I suppose if a metric puts up Pant, Kamran Akmal, and Parthiv Patel, it is possibly not measuring pure keeping skills. Our bowling has been good in the last 11 tests though and this is a bit of a testimony towards that. South Africa plays in the most hostile wickets at home. So, de Kock has good numbers.

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Overall figures
Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Dis	Ct	St	Ct Wk	Ct Fi	MD	D/IDescending	
RR Pant (INDIA)		2018-2019	11	22	53	51	2	51	0	6 (6ct 0st)	2.409	
Q de Kock (SA)		2014-2019	39	74	175	166	9	166	0	5 (5ct 0st)	2.364	
Kamran Akmal (PAK)	2009-2010	10	19	44	42	2	42	0	4 (4ct 0st)	2.315	
PA Patel (INDIA)	2016-2018	5	10	23	21	2	21	0	4 (4ct 0st)	2.300	
TD Paine (AUS)		2010-2019	26	50	112	107	5	107	0	4 (4ct 0st)	2.240	
BB McCullum (NZ)	2009-2013	7	14	31	29	2	29	0	5 (5ct 0st)	2.214	
BJ Haddin (AUS)		2009-2015	47	91	199	192	7	192	0	6 (6ct 0st)	2.186	
BJ Watling (NZ)		2012-2019	55	104	214	206	8	206	0	6 (6ct 0st)	2.057	
AB de Villiers (SA)	2010-2015	22	41	84	80	4	80	0	6 (6ct 0st)	2.048	
PM Nevill (AUS)		2015-2016	17	31	63	61	2	61	0	4 (4ct 0st)	2.032	
JM Bairstow (ENG)	2013-2019	48	90	181	169	12	169	0	6 (6ct 0st)	2.011	investigate this query
MV Boucher (SA)	2009-2012	21	40	80	79	1	79	0	6 (6ct 0st)	2.000	investigate this query
MS Dhoni (INDIA)	2009-2014	53	96	184	164	20	164	0	5 (5ct 0st)	1.916	investigate this query
MJ Prior (ENG)	2009-2014	56	107	203	192	11	192	0	6 (6ct 0st)	1.897	investigate this query
Adnan Akmal (PAK)	2010-2014	21	41	77	66	11	66	0	6 (6ct 0st)	1.878	investigate this query
Sarfaraz Ahmed (PAK)	2010-2019	49	94	167	146	21	146	0	5 (5ct 0st)	1.776	investigate this query
MS Wade (AUS)	2012-2017	22	42	74	63	11	63	0	5 (4ct 1st)	1.761	investigate this query
MDKJ Perera (SL)	2015-2016	6	12	21	13	8	13	0	3 (3ct 0st)	1.750	investigate this query
D Ramdin (WI)	2009-2016	38	66	112	102	10	102	0	5 (5ct 0st)	1.696	investigate this query
N Dickwella (SL)	2014-2019	32	58	98	80	18	80	0	5 (5ct 0st)	1.689	investigate this query
SO Dowrich (WI)	2016-2019	28	48	79	74	5	74	0	4 (4ct 0st)	1.645	investigate this query
Liton Das (BDESH)	2015-2019	10	13	21	19	2	19	0	4 (3ct 1st)	1.615	investigate this query
JC Buttler (ENG)	2014-2018	16	31	50	50	0	50	0	5 (5ct 0st)	1.612	investigate this query
LD Chandimal (SL)	2011-2017	24	46	72	62	10	62	0	6 (5ct 1st)	1.565	investigate this query
RW Chakabva (ZIM)	2011-2018	10	18	27	24	3	24	0	4 (4ct 0st)	1.500	investigate this query
CS Baugh (WI)	2010-2012	16	29	43	39	4	39	0	5 (4ct 1st)	1.482	investigate this query
HAPW Jayawardene (SL)	2009-2015	31	53	78	65	13	65	0	5 (5ct 0st)	1.471	investigate this query
WP Saha (INDIA)	2012-2018	31	60	85	75	10	75	0	6 (5ct 1st)	1.416	investigate this query
CFK van Wyk (NZ)	2012-2012	9	17	24	23	1	23	0	4 (4ct 0st)	1.411	investigate this query
Mushfiqur Rahim (BDESH)	2010-2019	41	77	91	78	13	78	0	5 (5ct 0st)	1.181
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Prithvi Shaw is back. He spent time with Dravid at the NCA. Dravid, in my opinion, is a "gentleman". Apart from technical issues, I hope Shaw got some advice about how to keep it clean and conduct himself with integrity.
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There's a lot of chatter about Shaw not being able to handle the high life of a star. But I hope he can just concentrate on his cricket. This was the one innings he played in Australia before the injury that derailed his career and eventually led to worse things:
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