Indian Premier League (IPL)

[rajitghosh]

Are Kapil Dev, Srinath, Bumrah, Umesh, Ishant, Sreeshath exceptions?

Zak and Shami may be the exceptions.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

It was all started with Mohammad Nissar in 1930s, followed by Abid Ali in 1960s, for long gap we did'nt had Muslim fast bowlers.Then, Zaheer came and turned out to be a legend. Irfan Pathan had plenty but he was destroyed by Greig Chappell. Munaf came as an express fast bowler later turn out to be very usefull medium fast bowler.

After that Shami, was the only muslim fast bowler carrying the legacy of Zak. Gene, diet, muscular build and aggression are the qualities that suits fast bowling and all these things have in them. But, the biggest surprise of this IPL is speed. Uncapped pacers are hitting 145 + and even 150+ which has raise the standard of fast bowling in india. Umran Malik has created this standard, unknown pacers hitting 150+ will be found more in the country and it will spread same like Kapil Dev/ Hardik Pandya, creating interest in becoming allrounders and MSD, after whom we are having 100% wicket keepers who can bat at the top order which we did'nt had after Farooq Engineer as all keepers came after him were bits & pieces batters.

[rajitghosh]

What is your definition of fast? Abid Ali and Irfan Pathan i agree ran in fast but never bowled fast. Munaf Patel very early in his career became a line and length bowler. And Nissar was born in modern day Pakistan.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

What is your definition of fast? Abid Ali and Irfan Pathan i agree ran in fast but never bowled fast. Munaf Patel very early in his career became a line and length bowler. And Nissar was born in modern day Pakistan.

Those who are more then 140 +kph. Irfan Pathan clicked 153+ against Pakistan in 2007. Abid Ali might be on 135+ but Nissar was fast as per English media back in 1930. Munaf was on 150+ when he played for Baroda in his initial days but was wayward like Varun Aaron, however later he dropped his pace and became medium fast bowler
https://www.sportsadda.com/cricket/feat ... ian-bowler

[prasen9]

Irfan and Zaheer also lost pace later on in their career.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Yes, Zaheer was 145+ in the begining of his career, later he became injury prone, he had issue with his hamstring and was ruled out from many important test series after playing first test. He had very attractive bowling action, specially that big jump while delivering the bowl, which he later made it lower and also reduced pace to prolong his career. The biggest thing India got from Zaheer 2.0 was he developed inswinger to the right hand batter which he didnt had at the begining of his career and viscious slower ball that made him hard to play towards end of the innings

[prasen9]

R.P. Singh and Ishant Sharma also lost pace. That has been the bane of Indian cricket. Hope Bumrah, Shami can carry on at full tilt for a few more years.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

Fitness regulation module & special drills for bowlers were not there at that time. BCCI, now has developed infrastructure in fast bowling as a result we are seeing lots of 145+ uncapped domestic bowlers.

[Kumar]

Sunny has a interesting take on pace bowling riches! Are our pace bowlers that good or our local batting talent pretty bare?

https://sports.ndtv.com/ipl-2022/its-a- ... rs-2992823

[Shilpa_Sundhar]

What if there is rain in the IPL final? BCCI issued a new rules

In case no play is possible after the toss in the final, teams will have a fresh toss on the reserve day. The IPL has said the reserve day will comprise the same amount of playing time – five hours and 20 minutes including the two extra hours available in case of any disruption or rain.

Source: https://cricglitz.com/what-will-happen- ... ashed-out/

[prasen9]

Bumrah and Shami are very good. Siraj is promising. Umesh is good but not great. Thakur maybe useful in swinging conditions. Other than that, the rest are untested. This is no way comparable to the lineup that Australia has. We are hyping these guys because we used to be abysmal. But, using absolute current day standards, if you take top 4 or 5, maybe South Africa and Australia are certainly better than us. Perhaps New Zealand too. England is also possibly better than us if you count Broad and Anderson.

[PKBasu]

I’ve often wondered: with a rare exception or two, generally our fast bowlers are all Muslim. Is it a coincidence? Or, diet, gene, etc. Any theories out there?

Most of the best spinners in the history of the game are Indian/Hindu -- Ramadhin, Mankad, Gupte, Prasanna, Chandra, Bedi, Venkat, Muralidharan, Ashwin, Jadeja, Kaneria, Panesar, the many NZ Patels, Sodhi.

Similarly, the greatest pacers from the subcontinent have predominantly been Muslim. But there were also non-Muslim fast bowlers throughout the period -- Amar Singh, Shute and Montu Banerjee, Ramakant Desai, Subrata Guha, Pandurang Salgaoncar (most of whom were rarely picked for India, because India didn't take pace bowling too seriously). Then we had Kapil Dev, Srinath, RP Singh, Bumrah, Ishant, Umesh Yadav (still express quick now, but generally treated badly by the selectors), Chaminda Vaas. But the faster bowlers were generally Muslim. Something to do with diet and genes, perhaps.

[Sin Hombre]

Bumrah has been our greatest fast bowler, and Vaas for SL so I wouldn't really extrapolate too much to genetics here. The only reality is that India has had a batting culture historically and Pakistan a fast bowling culture. Best talents gravitate towards that.

[Sin Hombre]

@prasen how terrible has this IPL been as far as Indian players are concerned?

I haven't followed but looks like every one of the national team regulars was pathetic.

[Rajkumar Sharma]

I’ve often wondered: with a rare exception or two, generally our fast bowlers are all Muslim. Is it a coincidence? Or, diet, gene, etc. Any theories out there?

Most of the best spinners in the history of the game are Indian/Hindu -- Ramadhin, Mankad, Gupte, Prasanna, Chandra, Bedi, Venkat, Muralidharan, Ashwin, Jadeja, Kaneria, Panesar, the many NZ Patels, Sodhi.

Similarly, the greatest pacers from the subcontinent have predominantly been Muslim. But there were also non-Muslim fast bowlers throughout the period -- Amar Singh, Shute and Montu Banerjee, Ramakant Desai, Subrata Guha, Pandurang Salgaoncar (most of whom were rarely picked for India, because India didn't take pace bowling too seriously). Then we had Kapil Dev, Srinath, RP Singh, Bumrah, Ishant, Umesh Yadav (still express quick now, but generally treated badly by the selectors), Chaminda Vaas. But the faster bowlers were generally Muslim. Something to do with diet and genes, perhaps.

There was also Atul Wassan, Subroto Banerjee, Sunil Walsan in 80s era when India didnt had quality fast bowlers. Raju Kulkarni played for Mumbai was fastest among them. Bowler turned actor Salil Ankola was also tried by the selectors