Head coach of Indian cricket team

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Re: Duncan Fletcher - New coach of Indian cricket team

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That sounds like a ridiculous choice. I was hoping it to be either Andy Flower or Stephen Fleming.

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Re: Duncan Fletcher - New coach of Indian cricket team

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Varma wrote:That sounds like a ridiculous choice. I was hoping it to be either Andy Flower or Stephen Fleming.
After going through a few news articles, Fletcher doesn't seem to be a bad pick, after all. Some of these articles hinted at his ineptness in handling media. It remains to be seen how he would handle Indian press. Of late, our media houses (both print & visual) have become worst than British tabloids.

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Re: Duncan Fletcher - New coach of Indian cricket team

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Expected criticism by Gavaskar and Kapil as this time Gavaskar wasn't included in panel while selecting Fletcher ... Gavaskar was member of panel who selected Kirsten.

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Re: Head coach of Indian cricket team

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BCCI has initiated the process for appointment of the Head Coach of Team India ... Anil Kumble’s present term as the head coach will complete with the ICC Champions Trophy.

BCCI seeks applications for Team India Head Coach
BCCI would like to call upon interested candidates to apply for the position of ‘Head Coach’ for Indian​ Cricket Team (Men). The process has been initiated since the term of the current coach, Mr Anil Kumble concludes with the Champions Trophy, read a BCCI Press Release.

Present Head Coach, Mr. Anil Kumble will be a direct entry for the process. To ensure a fair and completely transparent process, a nominee of the Committee of Administrators (CoA) will oversee the entire process along with the Cricket Advisory Committee.
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Re: Head coach of Indian cricket team

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I read in the new Kohli-Kumble proposal, Kumble has suggested a raise from about 6cr to 15cr for himself. Nice!!
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Re: Head coach of Indian cricket team

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Where did you read that? I think he has proposed 30%hike for himself. From 6cr to 8cr. 150% increase is only for players. For support staff they have proposed 50% hike. But the interesting part is they they have not talked about any hike in Ranji fees where it seems fees are same for a decade as per Harbhajan. In fact Harbhajan publically appealed to Kumble to look into that.
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I could be wrong. Sorry about that. Didn't remember the numbers.
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As long as the people who are making the decision to keep Kumble or not are independent, i.e., not his relatives or close friends, etc., then asking for whatever raise he wants is okay. It is up to the employers to figure out if they want to keep him at the salary he demands or go elsewhere.
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Here is another article in support of Kumble.

With CoA backing, is it advantage Anil Kumble already?
"There are many in the BCCI and the CoA who didn't approve of Kumble going through the rigmarole (selection process) once again after being chosen last year. They feel that he has done a good job with the team in Tests against top teams."

"Kumble committed a mistake by taking the one-year contract from BCCI last year. Thus, when BCCI office-bearers said the process had to be repeated in the name of transparency, the CoA couldn't say no."
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Re: Head coach of Indian cricket team

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Another article about 'so called' Kumble and Kohli misunderstanding.

Did clash of egos lead to impasse between Virat Kohli and Anil Kumble?
Of the incidents that have been pointed out as having led to this unnecessary controversy, one was related to Kumble and his coaching staff wanting a conditioning camp right after the Test series against England because the team was reuniting after a gap of almost 15 days. Kohli shot down the proposal saying that the players were already in the midst of a hectic season and they didn't need a conditioning camp to gear up for the ODI and T20 series that followed the Tests with England.

Then there was issue of bowler Kuldeep Yadav. Kumble wanted Kuldeep to play in the third Test match against Australia in Ranchi but Kohli was not convinced. The chinaman bowler was finally included in the playing XI in the last Test in place of the injured Kohli. Sources said the captain was not happy about this decision. Sources also said that during the series Kumble once suggested some bowling changes through a messenger which irked Kohli on the field.

A BCCI official, while defending Kumble, said that the coach should be empowered to continue with his job and ensure discipline in the team. "Kumble is doing his bit to keep things together. It was the board and the cricket committee members who took the decision to keep him and he has proved his worth. The team has won everything ever since he joined them. So on what ground should he be removed? Misunderstandings happen in every team," he said.
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Re: Head coach of Indian cricket team

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Seems like a clash of egos. Looks like Kumble is expecting the Indian team to act like world class professional athletes but Cricket is still a semi-professional sport, so he is getting resistance...
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Re: Head coach of Indian cricket team

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Kohli having ego problems? Expected. He has supreme self-confidence that does him a lot of good but is not always conducive to optimal outcomes for the team. I think Kumble should invite him for a talk and thrash it out. He is within his rights in sending suggestions about bowling change to Kohli and he is within his rights to take that into account and do something differently. Wrt playing Kuldeep, Kumble was proved right. Maybe having him in Ranchi would have helped too. Kumble relented in Ranchi. Maybe they should have talked after the Dharamsala match and Kumble should have told Kohli that it did work as he expected it to. Being a more experienced person and an all-time great, his words should mean something. Kohli can internalize this and give a bit instead of being stubborn and making it a power/control issue.
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Re: Head coach of Indian cricket team

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It has been obvious that Kumble and Kohli have different approaches, and occasionally Kumble makes the point publicly -- as with Pujara (where Kohli wanted him to score faster, while Kumble staunchly supported Pujara, saying the strike-rate was not an issue in tests).
Broadly, I think Kohli should take Kumble's suggestions more on board.
Experience counts for something! Kohli had such a spectacular 2016 that nothing and nobody could touch him; but a bit of humility, in the midst of this year's slight loss of form, would be good for him.
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