Brij Bhushan Sharan Singh cited the prolonged training stints abroad for Vinesh Phogat, supported by OGQ, and Bajrang Punia, who is with JSW, as prime examples of how the federation was blindsided.
“Vinesh stayed in Hungary with her coach (Woller Akkos) and as far as we know there aren’t good sparring partners in her weight class,” Singh told The Tribune.
“It seems she became the sparring partner for the coach’s wife, who represented Hungary in Tokyo. Things like this cannot happen,” he added.
Akkos’ wife Sastin Marianna represented Hungary in the 62kg category.
The federation is equally unhappy with Bajrang, who fought in the Ali Aliev tournament in June despite chief coach Jagmander Singh instructing him not to. Bajrang injured his knee during his semifinal in the tournament.
“JSW, OGQ and in some way even TOPS have ruined our athletes,” Singh said. “They do not do anything at the grassroots and just pick up the big talents. And the athletes that do not qualify, they dump them,” he added.
“Look what they did with Sakshi Malik and Pooja Dhanda. The day it was confirmed that they could not qualify, they were left on their own. We have to review their roles. Merely handing cash cards to premier players is not helping, these things ruin players,” he added.
Obviously these private companies may not have greased his palms. The stories may not be true. Had they trained after him he would have got a cut of TOPS money.
World junior wrestling championships ( under 20) is going on in Ufa, Russia.
Our mens freestyle team won 6 medals ( 1 silver and 5 bronze), Silver for Ravinder (61kg), bronzes for Yash (74kg),Gourav Baliyan (79kg),Pruthviraj Patil (92kg),Deepak (97kg), Anirudh (125kg). Encouraging to see us winning medals in all the heavier weight clases. This is where we are missing medals at senior level. And someone from Maharashtra won a medal at least at world juniors ( thing I mentioned in the other thread).
Looking at the spread of medals here, Iran, Russia and USA are quite strong ahead of everyone else. But, we are at second rung along with Azerbeijan, similar level at where we where at Tokoyo olympics in mens freestyle- only one to win 2 medals after Russia, US and Iran.
Good to see that junior pipeline is strong in wrestling.
He sounds so arrogant. Looks more interested in control over wrestlers, rather than them winning medals. How does it matter if those like OGQ or JSW sponser them and take some of the credit.
Looks like there is some physical issue with Vinesh. Or maybe something mental after what all happened post Tokyo. She will need to take a break and then come back.
So with no Bajrang, Ravi and Vinesh ( no Deepak Punia too) it looks like an experimental squad with half the side with junior worlds. Maybe good for long term but not expecting any medals here unless of course other also come with experimental teams.
So. we ended with 1 silver and 1 bronze all in womens wrestling. We went in with only 1 of the 7 wrestliers who represented us at Tokyo.
And 1 of the Tokyo participants which were there, Anshu Malik became the first Indian women to reach final at a world championships. She lost in the final to Tokyo bronze medalist Helen Moroulis and won a silver. Sarita Mor won Bronze in womens 59 kg ( non- olympic weight category).
No medals in mens freestyle but couple of junior reached bronze medal matches. So, they would have got good exposures.
At world junior championships at Sofia, Bulgaria, Antim Panghal became the first Indian women wrestler to win a gold at world juniors in 53 kgs. This is the same weight class which Vinesh participates in and in trials for CWG, Antim ran Vinesh close and Vinesh only won in last minute. So, some real talent emerging there.
We got 1 gold, 3 silvers and 3 bronze medals in womens wrestling- 3 silver medalist also are talented- Sonam Malik in 62 kgs who is a 2 time under 17 world champion and already made the senior team for Tokyo olympics, Priyanka in 65 kgs who lost against Japanese 0-8 in final and more so Priya Malik in 76 kgs who was the only one to run a Japanese wrestlers somewhat close- Priya Malik is also 2 times under 17 world champion like Sonam.
In mens freestyle - we won 1 silver ( Mahendra Gaikwad from Solapur, Maharashtra in 130 kgs) and 6 bronze medals- couple of bronze medalists are also the ones to watch out for Sujit in 74 kgs and Mulayam Yadav in 65 kgs who both ran eventual gold medalists close.
Hope couple of those girls- Antim, Sonam, Priyanka, Priya become medal contenders for Paris olympics in 2 years time. Maybe someone from boys side too.
Currently world wrestling championships going on in Belgrade, Serbia. There was usual show in Greco Roman as only 3 of the 10 wrestler could win a round and then lost in the next one.
Womens wrestling started yesterday. And in 53 kgs, Vinesh Phogat had a disappointing loss against a Mongolian Asian championships silver medalists. But, the Mongolian got to the final and Vinesh got her second chance thru repachages, And today in repachages Vinesh got 3 wins and wins bronze with a 8-0 dominant win against Current European Champion from Sweeden.
Good to see that Vinesh got back to medals after the disappointment in Tokyo although must say this was a slightly depleted field with Japanese wrestler pulling out due to injury and no China and Russia. Still, bronze at this level is good.
We have another wrestler Nisha who is in bronze medal match tomorrow in 68 kg.
sameerph wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:17 pm
At world junior championships at Sofia, Bulgaria, Antim Panghal became the first Indian women wrestler to win a gold at world juniors in 53 kgs.
So it took the last Panghal to win the first medal. Go figure!
Luckily, a lot of Bangla words come from Samskrt. So, yes, with some effort, I could understand some Samskrt. I did read Bankim Chandra - possibly his entire works if I remember correctly. His Bangla is very close to Sanskrit. My daughter is fluent in Bengali but she has no clue when I talk in "suddh(a)" Bangla. She would not know what "antim" means.
BTW, was Vande Mataram actually in Sanskrit or in Bangla? There was even a court case related to that because someone needed one point to get in somewhere and that was what the contested answer was. To me and to whoever speaks Bangla now, it seems like it is in Sanskrit. But, old Bangla is very similar to Samskrt. So, who knows!
It's an interesting name right? Who would name their children "Last"? I mean I have seen more people named Pratham.
But, "The Last" is also interesting. I presume they did not mean their child was last in everything but it was sort of a bold statement. The last - as in the final answer. Period.
The Panghals were warriors. I presume all Jats were warriors. They got some land and became farmers and now may be increasingly different things. But, their culture of pehlwan-giri is perhaps second only to the Irani pehlwans?
Anyway, good luck to The Last Warrior (standing). May she live up to her name for years and decades.
prasen9 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:33 pm
BTW, was Vande Mataram actually in Sanskrit or in Bangla? There was even a court case related to that because someone needed one point to get in somewhere and that was what the contested answer was. To me and to whoever speaks Bangla now, it seems like it is in Sanskrit. But, old Bangla is very similar to Samskrt. So, who knows!
The lines selected by Indian parliament as the national song (the first 2 stanzas) are in pure Sanskrit. From what I see, there are some more lines in the original (see wiki). The third stanza that starts with "saptkoti" may have a couple of words that might be written in the Bangala versions (but they are sanskrit words). Similarly the 4th stanza (tumi vidya, tumi dharma...) has the word "tumi" (which must mean "you yourself") is not pure Sanskrit. The 5th stanza (twam hi durga...) seems to be all pure sanskrit. Actually the "twam hi" in Sanskrit in the 5th stanza may exactly be what became "tumi" in the 4th stanza.
So, it is basically all sanskrit with a couple of Bangla words thrown in. Even that, we can't say if he wrote in Bangla in the orginal or in sanskrit Devanagari. But the first 8 lines selected as the national song are pure Sanskrit.
I mean I have seen more people named Pratham.