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When one looks at countrywise number of qualifiers at Paris Olympics in mens freestyle even if one looks at Asia we have fallen far behind - 6 qualifiers from Iran, 4 from japan, 3 each from Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan,Mongolia and China and only 1 from us.

There is some hope though that this will change by next olympics. Someone has analyzed the average age of the qualfiers in mens freestyle and it is between 26 to 28. Our 3 best wrestlers in these qualifiers are very young- Aman (20), Jaideep (21) and Sujit (22). So, hopefully they will be still be around by next olympics and will be close to their peak by then.
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Sujeet relies on technique more than power and will struggle in these close tactical bouts. He also got a couple of penalty points in that semifinal bout that he lost.
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Sujeet's defence looked really good in all his bouts. That American Rutherford tore apart every other opponent and could not take a point off from Sujeet till about 5 mins. Sujeet made a mistake in trying to attack at that point, if he would have kept defending, he would have mostly won.
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Well, finally WFI has decided that there will be no further trials before olympics and those 6 who have earned the quota will go to Paris.

That is a fair decision considering that most of them have earned the quota hard way thru qualifications which were held quite recently and would be wasting their energy if they have to go thru another trials rather than preparing for the olympics.

Only Antim who won the quota at last year's world championships has not fought recently, hope she participates in at least 1 tournament before olympics.
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^^
Would have been a fair decision if not holding the trials was the plan from very beginning. But if such decisions are taken after the fact that certain wrestlers win the quota etc can always be contentious and i'm sure the expecting wrestlers would be contending the decision in courts until the last flight for Olympics departs.

But considering the ad-hoc state of our wrestling association and its activities, expecting anything anymore than what we are seeing would be greedy.
Even the wrestlers who won the quota will also not be fully satisfied the decision making process, they will say "See this is what we were saying from the time we won the quota..and if you made up your mind a month back we would have been training in Russia and other former soviet block countries by now".
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Whatever our misgivings about wrestling federation and agree that this should have been announced earlier, at this stage this is the best decision. Another trials at this stage would have been disastrous. Instead the wrestlers will be participating in ranking series in early June which will test them against international competition and sharpen them for Paris.
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Our all olympic bound wrestlers will be part of Budapest ranking series starting from tomorrow. It is a very good field there, so we will get a decent idea where we stand.
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Aman Sherwat got silver at Budepest ranking series in 57 kgs, beats a couple of decent wrestlers who have qualified for Paris but lost to world silver medalist Japanese Higuchi tamely. So, I think this olympics is too early to expect a medal from Aman. Will need lot of luck with draw to have any chance.
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Easy win over #15 and easy loss to #3 (based on WR). So, doesn't scream medal but should be top 6-8 in his weight group consistent with his ranking (#8).
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Still a bronze is not out of the question, via the repechage route.
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There are probably 4 wrestlers he will definitely lose to at the Olympics and maybe a few others where it is 50/50.

He needs 0 or 1 of those 4 in his half to win a medal. I did the probabilities and it comes to around 0.1 which is where we have him after qualifying.
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I would have been more hopeful if Aman had looked at least competitive against Higuchi but he got torn apart. Same thing had happened against Uzbek who beat him easily at Asian olympic qualifier. His leg defense looks weak and a good attacking wrestler can take him apart in first few minutes. He relies more on stamina and outplaying an opponent in second half when he gets tired. That does not work against good attacking wrestlers.

Anyway, Aman is only 20, so he can improve a lot both in terms of technique and physique. But, medal at this olympics is tough. Hope we had a trial between him and Ravi again if Ravi is fully fit.
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Both Antim and Anshu won silvers in the ranking but lost in the finals tamely. Antim who was seen for the first time since Asian games more than 8 months back. She lost to the Swede whom she had beaten easily for bronze medal at last year's world championships. She looked somewhat tired and could not mount serious attack. Is it some injury or some rustiness coming back after this time ? Hope she gets back at peak level at Paris.

Anshu had an excellent win the SF against world silver medalist Nichita from Moldova but was teched by the Chinese who had also qualified for the Paris from the same event where Anshu had qualified.

Vinesh lost in the second round itself.

Should we downgrade our wrestling medal expectations ? Or maybe wait for the last wrestler Ritika to participate tomorrow ( Nisha Dahiya is not participating here )
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It seems like Anshu got injured before her final fight? She did beat the WC silver medalist and the Chinese #2 to get to the finals.
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