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Karnam Malleswari is leading a 9-member Indian team to the World Weightlifting championship to be held in Vancouver, Canada, from 14 to 24 November, 2003. Karnam Malleswari had won a bronze medal in the Olympics.
Team:
Women: K Malleswari, Kunjurani Devi, Prasannama Chanu, Prasmita Devi, Prithima Devi, Nandini Devi and Sunaina.
Men: Vicky Batta, V Srinivasa Rao.
Coaches: Mr Pal Singh Sandhu, Mr GD Fort Gallant and Mr Jaswant Singh.
Team:
Women: K Malleswari, Kunjurani Devi, Prasannama Chanu, Prasmita Devi, Prithima Devi, Nandini Devi and Sunaina.
Men: Vicky Batta, V Srinivasa Rao.
Coaches: Mr Pal Singh Sandhu, Mr GD Fort Gallant and Mr Jaswant Singh.
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A decent performance in this world championship would give the right confidence on doing well at Athens olympics. BTW, any idea how many of them are qualified for olympics?
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BTW, any idea how many of them are qualified for olympics? - Kathir
The World Championship in Vancouver, Canada will also act as the Olympic Qualifier in weightlifting.
We can follow this championship closely to see how many weightlifters from India qualify for the Olympics.
The World Championship in Vancouver, Canada will also act as the Olympic Qualifier in weightlifting.
We can follow this championship closely to see how many weightlifters from India qualify for the Olympics.
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The World Weightlifting Championship starts on Nov 14th, 2003. This is how are weightlifters stack against the best in the world.
Mens weight class 56kg:
1. Vitali Dzerbianiou best lift 285 kg Belarus
2. Wang Shin-Yuan Mens 282.5 kg Chinese Taipei
3. Yang Chin-Yi 280 kg Chinese Taipei
24. Vicky Batta 250 kg India
24. V. Srenivasa Rao 250 kg India
Women's weight class 48 kg
1. Wang Mingjuan Womens best lift 200 kg P.R. of China
2. Wiratthaworn Aree 190 kg Thailand
3. Izabela Dragneva 187.5 kg Bulgaria
8. N. Kunjarani Devi 182.5 kg India
Women's weight class 53 kg
1. Ri Song Hui Womens best lift 230 kg D.P.R. Korea
2. Polsak Udomporn 225 kg Thailand
3. Kuntatean Junpim 215 kg Thailand
8. W. Nandini Devi 200 kg India
11. T. Sanamacha Chanu 195 kg India
Women's weight class 58 kg
1. Ip Wing-Yuk Womens Hong Kong
2. Kameaim Wandee Womens 230 kg Thailand
3. Zhou Yan Womens 230 kg P.R. of China
24. Sunaina Womens 200 kg India
28. Prasmita Mangraj 197.5 kg India
Women's weight class 63 kg
1. Xiong Meiyung Womens best lift 245 kg P.R. of China
2. Liu Xia Womens 245 kg P.R. of China
3. Natalia Skakun 240 kg Ukraine
16. Pratima Kumari 210 kg India
Women's weight class 69 kg
1. Thongsuk Pawina best lift 265 kg Thailand
2. Valentina Popova 260 kg Russia
3. Liu Chunhong 255 kg P.R. of China
6. Karnam Malleswari 245 kg India
In another thread some members have discussed Asian Games versus Commonwealth Games. In 6 out of the 7 weight classes in women's weight lifting Asian athletes are ranked number 1. In men's weight lifting Asian lifters are ranked number 1 in three weight classes and only one weight lifter from a Commonwealth nation is ranked number 1.
There was a time when athletes from some Commonwealth nations (Australia, England, New Zealand, Canada) used to be great but China, Korea and Japan are now ahead of them in many sports.
Mens weight class 56kg:
1. Vitali Dzerbianiou best lift 285 kg Belarus
2. Wang Shin-Yuan Mens 282.5 kg Chinese Taipei
3. Yang Chin-Yi 280 kg Chinese Taipei
24. Vicky Batta 250 kg India
24. V. Srenivasa Rao 250 kg India
Women's weight class 48 kg
1. Wang Mingjuan Womens best lift 200 kg P.R. of China
2. Wiratthaworn Aree 190 kg Thailand
3. Izabela Dragneva 187.5 kg Bulgaria
8. N. Kunjarani Devi 182.5 kg India
Women's weight class 53 kg
1. Ri Song Hui Womens best lift 230 kg D.P.R. Korea
2. Polsak Udomporn 225 kg Thailand
3. Kuntatean Junpim 215 kg Thailand
8. W. Nandini Devi 200 kg India
11. T. Sanamacha Chanu 195 kg India
Women's weight class 58 kg
1. Ip Wing-Yuk Womens Hong Kong
2. Kameaim Wandee Womens 230 kg Thailand
3. Zhou Yan Womens 230 kg P.R. of China
24. Sunaina Womens 200 kg India
28. Prasmita Mangraj 197.5 kg India
Women's weight class 63 kg
1. Xiong Meiyung Womens best lift 245 kg P.R. of China
2. Liu Xia Womens 245 kg P.R. of China
3. Natalia Skakun 240 kg Ukraine
16. Pratima Kumari 210 kg India
Women's weight class 69 kg
1. Thongsuk Pawina best lift 265 kg Thailand
2. Valentina Popova 260 kg Russia
3. Liu Chunhong 255 kg P.R. of China
6. Karnam Malleswari 245 kg India
In another thread some members have discussed Asian Games versus Commonwealth Games. In 6 out of the 7 weight classes in women's weight lifting Asian athletes are ranked number 1. In men's weight lifting Asian lifters are ranked number 1 in three weight classes and only one weight lifter from a Commonwealth nation is ranked number 1.
There was a time when athletes from some Commonwealth nations (Australia, England, New Zealand, Canada) used to be great but China, Korea and Japan are now ahead of them in many sports.
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On the first day Indian weightlifter V. Srenivasa Rao lifted 105 kg in snatch and 130 kg in clean and jerk for a total of 235 kg. His personal best is 250 kg.
Weightlifters are divided into groups (A,B,C) depending on their ranking. V. Srenivasa Rao was in Group C and finished third in the group. The better lifters will be competing later today and his rank should go down. Vicky Batta is in Group B.
Weightlifters are divided into groups (A,B,C) depending on their ranking. V. Srenivasa Rao was in Group C and finished third in the group. The better lifters will be competing later today and his rank should go down. Vicky Batta is in Group B.
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Kathir, here is a slight clarification about the qualifying procedure for the Olympics in weightlifting.
90 women and 170 men will be selected to represent their countries at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, Greece. 126 men and 61 women will qualify for the Olympics through the World Championship in Vancouver.
The number of athletes that a country can send to an Olympic Games in weightlifting is based on that country’s standings at the preceding World Championships. For example, countries finishing in the top six in men's event can qualify 6 lifters each, #7-13 get 5 lifters each, etc. #1-9 team rank in women's category qualifies 4 lifters per country and so on. Each country can decide on a procedure to choose their lifters for the Olympics.
The host nation (Greece) for the 2004 Olympic Games automatically qualifies a full team (6 men + 4 women).
(To me it sounds like a confusing procedure to choose the weightlifters for the Olympics).
90 women and 170 men will be selected to represent their countries at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, Greece. 126 men and 61 women will qualify for the Olympics through the World Championship in Vancouver.
The number of athletes that a country can send to an Olympic Games in weightlifting is based on that country’s standings at the preceding World Championships. For example, countries finishing in the top six in men's event can qualify 6 lifters each, #7-13 get 5 lifters each, etc. #1-9 team rank in women's category qualifies 4 lifters per country and so on. Each country can decide on a procedure to choose their lifters for the Olympics.
The host nation (Greece) for the 2004 Olympic Games automatically qualifies a full team (6 men + 4 women).
(To me it sounds like a confusing procedure to choose the weightlifters for the Olympics).
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Results:
56 Kg weight class:
1. WU Meijin China Snatch 127.5 kg; clean & jerk 160.0 kg; Total 287.5 kg
2. JIGAU Adrian Romania 125.0 kg; 155.0 kg; Total 280.0 kg
3. ARTUC Sedat Turkey 125.0 kg; 152.5kg; Total 277.5 kg
20. BATTA Vicky India 110.0 kg; 132.5 kg; Total 242.5 kg
25. V. Srenivasa Rao India 105 kg; 130 kg; Total 235 kg.
56 Kg weight class:
1. WU Meijin China Snatch 127.5 kg; clean & jerk 160.0 kg; Total 287.5 kg
2. JIGAU Adrian Romania 125.0 kg; 155.0 kg; Total 280.0 kg
3. ARTUC Sedat Turkey 125.0 kg; 152.5kg; Total 277.5 kg
20. BATTA Vicky India 110.0 kg; 132.5 kg; Total 242.5 kg
25. V. Srenivasa Rao India 105 kg; 130 kg; Total 235 kg.
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Results: 48 kg weight class - women
1. WANG Mingjuan China snatch 90.0 kg; clean & jerk 110.0 kg; Total 200.0 kg
2. AREE Wiratthaworn Thailand 82.5 kg; 107.5 kg; Total 190.0 kg
3. TAYLAN Nurcan Turkey 85.0 kg; 102.5 kg; Total 187.5 kg
4. DRAGNEVA Izabela Bulgaria 85.0 kg; 105.0 kg; Total 185.0 kg
5. DEVI N. Kunjarani India 80.0 kg; 102.5 kg; Total 182.5 kg
N. Kunjarani Devi equalled her personal best at the championship.
1. WANG Mingjuan China snatch 90.0 kg; clean & jerk 110.0 kg; Total 200.0 kg
2. AREE Wiratthaworn Thailand 82.5 kg; 107.5 kg; Total 190.0 kg
3. TAYLAN Nurcan Turkey 85.0 kg; 102.5 kg; Total 187.5 kg
4. DRAGNEVA Izabela Bulgaria 85.0 kg; 105.0 kg; Total 185.0 kg
5. DEVI N. Kunjarani India 80.0 kg; 102.5 kg; Total 182.5 kg
N. Kunjarani Devi equalled her personal best at the championship.
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Results: Women's 53 kg weight class
1. UDOMPORN Polsak Thailand snatch 100.0 kg; clean and jerk 122.5 kg; Total 222.5 kg
2. RI Song Hui PRKorea 95.0 kg; 127.5 kg; Total 222.5 kg
3. JUNPIM Kuntanean Thailand 97.5 kg; 120.0 kg; Total 217.5 kg
6. DEVI W. Nandini India 90.0 kg; 110.0 kg; Total 200.0 kg
7. CHANU T. Sanamacha India 82.5 kg; 102.5 kg; Total 190.0 kg
Nandini Devi is ranked 8th (personal best 200 kg) and Chanu is ranked 11th (personal best 195 kg) in the world. Both performed better than their rankings and Nandini tied her personal best and Chanu was off by 5 kg.
The Indian news media has criticised Kunjarani Devi for finishing 5th in the World Championship. In fact she is ranked 8th in the world and tied her personal best at this championship. We expect our athletes to win medals but I am still happy if they perform better than their ranking and tie or exceed their personal best. A medal of course will make me happier.
1. UDOMPORN Polsak Thailand snatch 100.0 kg; clean and jerk 122.5 kg; Total 222.5 kg
2. RI Song Hui PRKorea 95.0 kg; 127.5 kg; Total 222.5 kg
3. JUNPIM Kuntanean Thailand 97.5 kg; 120.0 kg; Total 217.5 kg
6. DEVI W. Nandini India 90.0 kg; 110.0 kg; Total 200.0 kg
7. CHANU T. Sanamacha India 82.5 kg; 102.5 kg; Total 190.0 kg
Nandini Devi is ranked 8th (personal best 200 kg) and Chanu is ranked 11th (personal best 195 kg) in the world. Both performed better than their rankings and Nandini tied her personal best and Chanu was off by 5 kg.
The Indian news media has criticised Kunjarani Devi for finishing 5th in the World Championship. In fact she is ranked 8th in the world and tied her personal best at this championship. We expect our athletes to win medals but I am still happy if they perform better than their ranking and tie or exceed their personal best. A medal of course will make me happier.
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All you can really expect an athelete to do is their best. If an athelete sets or matches their personal best in an event and doesn't win a medal I do not think they should be critisised. If they finished far below their personal best and a personal best or near PB would have won them something in that case I can see some critisism, but then again they are human too and caan't be at their best every day.
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Women's 58 kg weight class:
MANGRAJ Prasmita India snatch 85.0 kg; clean and jerk 105.0 kg; Total 190.0 kg
Currently she is in 8th position but the top 14 weightlifters have not yet lifted. She should move up from her 28th world ranking but she was a little below her personal best of 197.5 kg
SUNAINA was entered in the 58 kg weight class but is now going to participate in the 63 kg body weight class.
MANGRAJ Prasmita India snatch 85.0 kg; clean and jerk 105.0 kg; Total 190.0 kg
Currently she is in 8th position but the top 14 weightlifters have not yet lifted. She should move up from her 28th world ranking but she was a little below her personal best of 197.5 kg
SUNAINA was entered in the 58 kg weight class but is now going to participate in the 63 kg body weight class.
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Women's 63 kg weight results:
1. SKAKUN Natalia Ukrain snatch 110.0 kg; clean & jerk 138.0 kg; Total 247.5 kg (world record)
2. LIU Xia China 107.5 kg; 137.5 kg; Total 245.0
3. BATSIUSHKA Hanna Belarus 113.5 kg; 127.5 kg; Total 240.0 kg
12. KUMARI Pratima India 95.0 kg; 115.0 kg; Total 210.0 kg
(Ranked 16th in the world; tied personal best of 210 kg)
18. SUNAINA India 90.0 kg; 112.5 kg; Total 202.5 kg
(Sunaina was entered in the 58 kg weight class but had to move up to the higher weight class because she weighed more than 58 kg; she is ranked 24th in the 58 kg weight class and did better than expected in the higher weight class and lifted more than her personal best of 200 kg)
MANGRAJ Prasmita of India finished 18th in the 58 kg weight class yesterday.
1. SKAKUN Natalia Ukrain snatch 110.0 kg; clean & jerk 138.0 kg; Total 247.5 kg (world record)
2. LIU Xia China 107.5 kg; 137.5 kg; Total 245.0
3. BATSIUSHKA Hanna Belarus 113.5 kg; 127.5 kg; Total 240.0 kg
12. KUMARI Pratima India 95.0 kg; 115.0 kg; Total 210.0 kg
(Ranked 16th in the world; tied personal best of 210 kg)
18. SUNAINA India 90.0 kg; 112.5 kg; Total 202.5 kg
(Sunaina was entered in the 58 kg weight class but had to move up to the higher weight class because she weighed more than 58 kg; she is ranked 24th in the 58 kg weight class and did better than expected in the higher weight class and lifted more than her personal best of 200 kg)
MANGRAJ Prasmita of India finished 18th in the 58 kg weight class yesterday.
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None of the Indian weightlifters were in action at the World Weightlifting championship today. Karnam Malleswari will compete tomorrow (Thursday).
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Given their world rankings, it appears that India's women weight-lifters (who were among the world's best 8 years ago, when the sport really went international) have slipped quite a bit over the years -- i.e., they haven't kept up with improvements made by their peers. This is sad.
Kunjurani Devi's 5th place position nonetheless was commendable, and I was a bit disgusted to read all the negative reports in the Indian papers. One wishes the newspapers were as well-informed as Bhushan is!
Kunjurani Devi's 5th place position nonetheless was commendable, and I was a bit disgusted to read all the negative reports in the Indian papers. One wishes the newspapers were as well-informed as Bhushan is!