Indian Shooting thread

[IndiaSports]

Just read that in the Mixed team events, the Top 8 from the Individual events will be randomly paired with the Top 8 of the opposite gender based on a draw.

So, there is going to be international pairing, just like we had in Youth Olympics

[Sin Hombre]

3 golds without counting our 2 best events (mixed teams) is a great result.

[prasen9]

I was confused with the rules, now its clear.

I have given up a long time ago. Too lazy to read the rules and figure it out.

[IndiaSports]

Clean sweep for India in Mxd Team Pistol event.

Manu teamed up with Russian Artem Chernosov(world no1) to win the Gold.
Saurabh paired with legend Anna Korakakki to win the Silver.
Shahzar doubled with Serbian Arunovic to win the Bronze.

Abhishek also had a good score of 293 but his partner Kim Minyung faltered with 283.

It was really exciting final, please do watch it in you tube.

[IndiaSports]

And to put things into perspective, Manu and
Saurabh's combined score was good enough to win Gold even here.

Also, its clean sweep of Gold event of Manu in Mxd team event.
So in tennis term, she wins a calendar slam

Now just hope she wins the Olympic Gold and gets a Golden Slam

[sameerph]

Will watch it later. Air pistol mixed team is our best for a medal at Tokyo with pairs of Saurabh/Manu and Abhishek/Yeshswini.

Final 2019 rankings were released by ISSF ( based only on 2019 performance and different from world rankings) -

And these are the Indians in top 15-

10m AR
Divyansh 1st
Elavenil 1st, Apurvi 2nd, Anjum 9th

10m AP
Saurabh 1st, Abhishek 3rd, Shahzar 12th
Manu 3rd, Yashaswini 5th

25m
Anish 11th
Rahi 6th, Manu 13th

50m
Sanjeev 9th

So, if we consider these performances, we are primed for 6 medals in individual events itself. If we add 2-3 from mixed teams of air pistol and air rifle, we have 8-9 very strong medal contenders for Tokyo.

[depleter]

National shooting selection trail-1 started yesterday.
Skeet took place yesterday and today and both the shooters who got the quota there skipped the event.

And 50m Rifle 3 position men took place today.
https://www.thenrai.in/PDF/d3bc9384-1d5 ... 099e87.pdf
The ones who got us the quota - Sanjeev Rajput and Aishwary Pratap Singh Tomar and they both had a great qualifying round score of 1181 and 1179 respectively which would put them easily into the finals at the olympics. The other ones who are competing for the quota palces are Chain Singh, Swapnil Suresh Kusale and Niraj Kumar.
Before this trail Aishwary Pratap Singh Tomar was comfortable in the first place in the NRAI provisional score ranking with 1173.50 and this performance will further increase his score by some 3 points. Second was Chain Singh at 1167.50, and today's performance will likely take his score to 1168. And third was Sanjeev Rajput at 1167.25 and today's performance will increase his score by 4.50 points. I think Chain Singh will only have one more chance to increase his score if he want to get that quota i.e, selection trail 2 which will take place this week itself. So, it looks like it will be Aishwary Pratap Singh Tomar and Sanjeev Rajput who will be going to Tokyo and they started the season with phenomenal scores.

[sameerph]

Yes, those scores in qualifing by Sanjeev and Tomar would have probably among top 3-4 in any top class field at olympic/world level and Sanjeev's final score is also worthy of a medal at world level. So, on his good day Sanjeev Rajput can also be considered a medal prospect. This is good thing about our current batch of shooters. There are so many of those among these who can medal on their best day. And even if at least half of them are having a good day at Tokoy, we can end up with 5-6 medals in shooting.

Of course, that is given they remain in that kind of form till July and of course for olympics to happen first of all.

[indiansportsfan]

I don't understand NRAI's complex point system. My simple take is that the athlete who wins us the shooting quota should go on to represent the country in the Olympics, unless there is a very strong reason not to (like a complete loss in form, or injury). The reason is that the person achieved the quota in a word class field amidst all the pressure of the quota. Shooting trials in a low-pressure domestic setting just does not compare.

[depleter]

I don't understand NRAI's complex point system. My simple take is that the athlete who wins us the shooting quota should go on to represent the country in the Olympics, unless there is a very strong reason not to (like a complete loss in form, or injury). The reason is that the person achieved the quota in a word class field amidst all the pressure of the quota. Shooting trials in a low-pressure domestic setting just does not compare.

This is what we used to do before but someone who won a quota 2 years before may not be performing at the same level afterwards. And it created quite a bit of controversies during the selection before.
And your doubts are actually addressed in the selection criteria.

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(i) All shooters will be required to shoot a minimum of 5 (five) scores including scores in competitions as stated under 3.1. (iii) below for computation of BAS (Base Average Score). If a shooter has only 5 (five) scores including scores in competitions as stated under 3.1 (iii) below, all 5 (five) scores shall be Average Score) counted for BAS

(ii) In case a shooter has more than 5 (five) scores in competitions as stated under (iii) /1.2 (iii) below, the 5 (five) higher scores of the latest 6 (six) scores shall be counted for BAS (Base Average Score). BAS = 6 latest scores – (minus) the lowest of 6 latest / 5

(iii) Scores of following international competition will be considered for computation of FAS (Final Average Score) as stated under 3.1 (i) & (ii):
1. Asian Games, Jakarta, Indonesia 2018
2. World Championship, Korea
3-6. Four ISSF World Cups in 2019
7. Asian Shooting Championship 2019
8. First World Cup in 2020.

(iv) Scores shot by a shooter in international competitions listed under 1.2 (iii)/3.1(iii) shall be considered for the calculation of BAS. . In case a shooter is unable to render the required five scores in international competitions listed at 1.2 (iii)/ 3.1 (iii) above, he/she will be required to participate in the Olympic selection trials in India to complete the minimum five Qualification score of which all five scores shall be counted towards the calculation of BAS (Base Average Score). This will be applicable only to those shooters who are part of Indian team and have taken part in a minimum of three competitions as stated under 1.2 (iii)/3.1(iii) as per Olympic Games Selection Policy. A maximum of two Olympic selection trials will be held in India on the venues as stated under Clause 2.3 above and the eligible shooters would be allowed to shoot only one or two trials (as the case may be) to complete five scores. A shooter having four scores in competitions under 1.2 (iii)/3.1 (iii) above will be allowed to shoot only one trial.

And quota holders do get additional advantage here. They get an additional +2 added to their final FAS. That +2 might not be that big in 50m 3P, but in other events especially the 10m ones, one have to do consistently way better than the quota holder to take away the quota. Not only this but some lesser points are given to merit like you will get some points if you medal at an international event, World record gets you some points, being in world top 10 will also get you some points.

here is the full criteria
https://www.thenrai.in/PDF/ccf05a6f-aa3 ... b8e657.pdf

[sameerph]

2018 ISSF Junior world champion Hriday Hazarika wins 10m air rifle trials with a fantastic final score of 253.2. The current world record stands at 252.8. So, another talent blooming. Hriday will find it difficult to make to the olympics team though as he may be way down the rankings.

[depleter]

yeah but 625's from both Divyansh and Deppak kumar will not get them anywhere near the final. Divyansh has just recovered from COVID just a few weeks back, hope it's not affecting his performance.

[depleter]

In 10m air rifle men, Divyansh had a good comeback in trail 2, shooting 628.7 in qualifying and a gold with 250.9 in the final. The funny thing is, though 628.7 would most likely be a good enough score in the olympics to qualify for the 8 member final, the same score was barely enough for Divyansh here as he qualified in the 8th place. This shows the current level of competition here and it really bodes well for the future. we had 6 members crossing 630 while 13 members crossing 628.....this is insane
But the other quota holder Deepak kumar had another low score of 625.8.

In 10m air rifle women, both our quota holders Apoorvi Chandela and Anjum Mougdil performed badly in both the trails with Apoorvi (625.9/624.5) and Anjum(623.1/624.2). It's actually their competitor ELAVENIL VALARIVAN who did very good with 628.3 and 629.

[Sin Hombre]

Elevenil is world #1.

That said, the pressure of an Olympics would be something else, and these trials are not exactly going to replicate them.

[depleter]

An article about Saurabh's and Apurvi's olmpic preparation
https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/stori ... -in-tokyo/

"He was living like a prisoner inside his shooting range at home for the majority of this year. Even his family members maintained a distance from him to make sure he did not get sick. So the only thing he has done is practice,” Sheoran said to Indian Express.

“His average scores have improved by a couple of points. He now shoots 588 routinely, the kind of score that automatically makes him a medal contender.”

https://indianexpress.com/article/sport ... k-7125691/

And he starts with a bang. In the first selection trail he topped both the qualification and the final scores.
His qualification score - 590
His final score 246.9 (World record score)
Abhishek Verma too had a good qualification and final score
Qualification score - 583 (would take him into the finals)
Final score - 202.6...a 10+ shot average means most likely would be in medal contention.
https://www.thenrai.in/PDF/647d3137-1eb ... 277d6d.pdf

In women's 10m air pistol Manu Bhaker started well too
her qualification score - 580 (good enough for qualification into finals)
Final score - 239.3 (need to improve here)
https://www.thenrai.in/PDF/290f37bf-1ea ... 18f8d1.pdf

Women's 25m pistol took place in the past 2 days,
Manu had great qualifying scores with - 582 and 590 and bad final scores
Rahi Sarnobat had great final scores but need to improve a bit on qualifying - 578, 582. The thing with Rahi is she always performs great in finals, be it be asian games final, or the world cup ones or here. The only question mark is whether she qualifies for final or not.
https://www.thenrai.in/PDF/f895bb90-0c1 ... 455704.pdf
https://www.thenrai.in/PDF/dce171b5-2d5 ... 48e79c.pdf