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sameerph wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:38 pm ISSF Shooting world cup started yesterday in Putian,China.

A bit disappointing results in first 4 events for us - in mens 50M 3P, Sanjeev Rajput had a below par 1153 ( he had a 1163 in Asian championships recently ). In Womens 3P, Anjum Modugil had a poor 1147 ( her scores at international competitions have been ranging between 1160 to 1170).

In womens 25M pistol, Manu Bhaker had a 583 and narrowly missed the final. Her scores in this event have generally been in this range except for Asian games last year where she had a whooping 593 and also had a 590 in the first world cup this year. I think she will need to be at her best and in the range above 585 to make it to the final at Tokyo. Quite possible for her with a little more focus. Rahi Sarnobat had a very poor 569. She has been above 579 in every international competition in last year. So, this is much below par for her.

In mens 25M pistol, Anish had a 578. He has been up and down really ranging between 567 to a high 588 ( in first world cup this year). So, do not know what to expect from him. Good thing although he finished 10th overall, he was best among those who have not earned the olympic quota. So, he will likely retain his spot as the highest ranked player among non quota winners so far.

Anyway, except for Manu who was average, all our shooters had a below par performance. Hope it is only a temporary downturn due to too many tournaments recently.

We have all the 10M events in rifle and pistol events tomorrow which is our real strength. So, let us see how it goes.
Rajput actually missed the final by 1 point in what looked like a windy day. All people had below par performances yestedray
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Gold for Manu Bhakar in 10M Air pistol with a superb final score of 244.1. Yeshswini Deshwal dnished 6th.

Back to back golds for Manu in quality fields. We need to move her soon to our top bracket in Tokyo medal projections.

Saurabh and Abhishek are in mens finals which will be done shortly.
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Both Saurabh and Abhishek finish outside medal bracket in the final...shows what a crapshoot finals can be, we may still return without shooting medal in Tokyo also :frown:
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Abhishek finishes 5th and Saurabh 6th. In qualifying Saurabh had a below par 581 while Abhishek had a 588. Disappointing after they dominated the world cups this year. Hope it is only a temporary blip for them.
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srini wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:45 am Both Saurabh and Abhishek finish outside medal bracket in the final...shows what a crapshoot finals can be, we may still return without shooting medal in Tokyo also :frown:
That will be a shock this time around. Last time at Rio we only 1-2 real contenders (Jitu,Bindra). This time we have at least 6-7 real contenders. So, it will be a shock if all of them falter at Tokyo.

But, yes those who have done well thru the year are faltering now towards the end of the year. Saurabh, Abhishek and in womens 10M air rifle, Apurvi who had such a good year in world cups this year, had a second consecutive failure failing to reach finals with a poor score of 622.7. Anjum who is supposed to be our second shooter at Tokyo also had a bad 624.9. 2 younger shooters- Elavenil and Mehuli Ghosh made the finals though with scores of 631.1 and 629.3 respectively.

Divyansh Singh Panwar thru to the mens 10M Air rifle final.
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sameerph wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:09 am
srini wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:45 am Both Saurabh and Abhishek finish outside medal bracket in the final...shows what a crapshoot finals can be, we may still return without shooting medal in Tokyo also :frown:
That will be a shock this time around. Last time at Rio we only 1-2 real contenders (Jitu,Bindra). This time we have at least 6-7 real contenders. So, it will be a shock if all of them falter at Tokyo.

But, yes those who have done well thru the year are faltering now towards the end of the year. Saurabh, Abhishek and in womens 10M air rifle, Apurvi who had such a good year in world cups this year, had a second consecutive failure failing to reach finals with a poor score of 622.7. Anjum who is supposed to be our second shooter at Tokyo also had a bad 624.9. 2 younger shooters- Elavenil and Mehuli Ghosh made the finals though with scores of 631.1 and 629.3 respectively.

Divyansh Singh Panwar thru to the mens 10M Air rifle final.
Yes. Its a real head ache selecting the players for Tokyo.I hope the well documented NRAI qualification avoids any such shocks and takes care of sending players in form during that time of year (July '20 ) and not based on their past glory.
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They all had a very long season, its not possible for them to peak every time.
Just a week back Saurabh won medal as AC.
Abhisekh too making the finals.

I am more worried about Apurvi and Anjum, its back to back average/bad performances by them, they are suppose to be our Olympic reperesentative, ahead of Ela/Mehuli who actually doing very good.
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And Elavenil wins gold with a score of 250.8. :clap: She has been clearly our best shooter in 10M Air rifle in last few months. As of now, looks deserving to go to Tokyo. But, unfortunately lies third as per NRAI policy behing Apurvi and Anjum.

Mehuli finished 6th.
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17th year old Panwar, with our 3rd Gold.
What a performance :bounce: :bounce:
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sameerph wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:13 am And Elavenil wins gold with a score of 250.8. :clap: She has been clearly our best shooter in 10M Air rifle in last few months. As of now, looks deserving to go to Tokyo. But, unfortunately lies third as per NRAI policy behing Apurvi and Anjum.

Mehuli finished 6th.
I read somewhere that the WCF is not part of NRAI selection policy. If true, the selection policy is really flawed, I hope that NRAI reviews it and sends the best team and not people based on their performance in 2018.

Apurvi and Anjum has been struggling since the Rio WC, first the nationals, then AC now WCF.
I hope that the dip in performance is temporary and they do find their groove soon.
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Also, I think this is first time, we won 3 Gold in a WC on same day.

And that too, when our best players in 10m rifle women and 10m pistol men were not able to deliver. Speaks volumes about the depth and quality junior players we have.

Little disappointed with Mens pistol not winning anything, Abhisekh and Saurabh dominated this year, but I would not be too worried, may be one of those freak days.

Happy to see Manu get her rythm back and looking much more relaxed.
Rahi's scores in 25m pistol was somewhat weird. 88 in one of the series, may be a technical issue or pistol malfunction?

Also, if you observes Anish's performace, he seems to clearly struggle in the last round, it sort of has become a pattern, something to be worried about.
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Yes, what a performance today. Just when those who had done exceedingly well in world cups this year failed to deliver today- Saurabh, Abhishek and Apurvi the youngsters made up for that. 17 year olds Manu and Divyansh and 20 year old Elavenil.

That is why I said with the kind of depth we are seeing these days in our team, anything less than 3 medals at Tokyo would be a disappointment.
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I have a question, please dont mind.
In tokyo, incase we send Apurvi and Ela in 10m Rifle event. Can we field Anjum and Tejaswini in 50m3P?
Or do we have to field Anjum in 10m, to have a double starter in 50m 3P??
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Anjum will have to be fielded in 10M for being a double starter at 3P. Another way for Anjum to be eligible for 3P could be if we decide to exchange quota earned by Chinki Yadav in 25M. ( fielding Manu in that event).
That would be a good choice too if Ela remains to shoot so well in 10M but remains behind Anjum in NRAI selection score due to quota bonus points earned by Anjum.Anjum will not feel unjust and in in any case women's trap is worse choice for quota exchange.
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Thanks Sameer 🙂
I was confused with the rules, now its clear.

The thing I am worried about is Anjum has failed to win any Individual event in 10m rifle since her Silver in World Championships in 2018. Though she did win two gold in Mxd Team with Panwar. But she is a really good shooter, I pray she finds her form at the right time.

Will be really interesting to see who partners Panwar in tomorrows MxD event.
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