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Sin Hombre wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:11 pm Kynan will find it very hard to qualify through the rankings. Even the Italian world #1 is yet to win a quota spot.

Anish just needs to maintain his current ranking for another 6 months.
Anish always messes up the ending, if you follow his performance throughout the year, hopefully he will come up with some solid performance in the World Cup finals and the Delhi WC next year and secure that ranking.

Btw, was seeing there are provisions of distribution of unused quotas as well, what are those? Any chances we might get one or two in women skeet or trap?
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IndiaSports wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:16 pm
Anish always messes up the ending, if you follow his performance throughout the year, hopefully he will come up with some solid performance in the World Cup finals and the Delhi WC next year and secure that ranking.

Btw, was seeing there are provisions of distribution of unused quotas as well, what are those? Any chances we might get one or two in women skeet or trap?
Anish is quite consistent though which should be enough to get in through rankings.

Unused quotas are unlikely.


As far as Olympic events go; we have 3 golds, 2 silver, 1 bronze so far with Saurabh and Abhishek still left.
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Sin Hombre wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:11 pm Kynan will find it very hard to qualify through the rankings. Even the Italian world #1 is yet to win a quota spot.

Anish just needs to maintain his current ranking for another 6 months.
Okay, just saw that. That top ranked Italian won silver at shotgun world championships this year and won gold at World cup finals this year. Unfortunately, both these events dis not count for olympic qualification but count a lot for world rankings. That seems a flawed system as such big events 1 year before olympics do not count for olympic qualification. Anyway, due to that it will be impossible for Kynan to overhaul this Italian. He has himself to blame for this though as he missed the qualification chance narrowly 2-3 times.

Anish is the only who seems to have a chance thru that route. He is in world cup final too later this month. He needs a strong performance there as WCF gives a lot of points.
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Sin Hombre wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:06 pm As far as Olympic events go; we have 3 golds, 2 silver, 1 bronze so far with Saurabh and Abhishek still left.
That is a bit underwhelming by the standards they have set recently. In the Asiad, we had 2 gold, 3 silver and 3 bronze in olympic events.But, we have to remember that some of best shooters only shot in MQS here- Rahi and Manu in 25M pistol, Sanjeev Rajput in 50M 3P, Anjum in 3P women. The only real disappointment in terms of medals here has been womens 10M air rifle - no medals here when we have top 3 ranked shooters in the world is disappointment and a bit of warning sign in this event which we consider as one of the best medal chances at Tokyo.
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Valarivan did make it to the finals with a good qualifying score. She is definitely in good form.
Apurvi's form did dip a little, her scores in the national trails were also bit low by her standards. May be she peaked at the WC, this happens with shooting, she should be back in form later this year.
Anjum though consistent, has failed to win any medal in individual events since the world championship last year, on the other hand Mehuli Ghosh has some really good score in the MQS in all the WCs, nationals and even this AC.
It will be tough choice for NRAI to make, the WCF later this year will make a bit more clear where they all stand, all four have qualified.
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Joydeep Karmakar on Mehuli Ghosh



Its really really tough choice in this event and I hope since now we have that quota is 3P event, Mehuli gets a chance to shoot in the main event in AR and Anjum shoots the main event in 3P
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As mentioned, this is our best-ever Olympics quota haul in the shooting, 15 quota places ... India had 11 shooters at the 2012 London Olympics and 12 in Rio de Janeiro in 2016.

What a performance by Angad and Miraj in the Skeet event ... :bounce:
Proud of our another young shooter, Aishwary Pratap Singh Tomar for capturing quota place in the 3P event. :clap:
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In 10M air pistol,Saurabh Chauduri continued his amazing run of scores. A bit underwhelming in the qualifying- 583 for both of them which placed them only sixth and seventh. But, in the finals Saurabh was back in his element- Another excellent score of 244.5 which would have got him gold in all the world cups this year and 2018 world championships, but the North Korean Kim Song Guk came up with something big out of blue to break Saurabh's world record with a score of 246.5. Saurabh had to settle for silver this time. Abhishek finished fifth.

Also underlines the fact that a shooter can come up with this kind of performance on a given day in shooting. Therefore, it was important to get maximum quotas for olympics. Hope one of our shooters give this kind of freak performance on the big day in Tokyo. :D
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sameerph wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:17 pm Hope all of our shooters give this kind of freak performance on the big day in Tokyo. :D
I know what you meant to say. So, corrected your statement (see bold).
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Angad and Sekhon Ganemat won the Silver in mixed skeet, so thats really a good performance. :clap: :clap: Lost the finals to Chinese team 33-36.
If any of our women player had a got quota we could have fielded a mixed team in Olympics as well.
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Today was the last day, anyone has the count of the total number of medals we got here and the break up?

I guess we won 3 Gold(Manu, Angad, Manu/Abhisekh)
5 silver(Mairaj, Saurabh, Angad/Sekhon, Yashwini/ Saurabh, Women Team Rifle)
2 Bronze (Deepak Kumar, Tomar).

Did our men pistol team win any medal?
Please correct me, if i missed any one.

Also, Chinki Yadav, Tejaswini Sawant, Kynan Chenai, Yasashwini and Elavenil made the finals, so overall satisfactory results, we should be behind China but above South Korea.

The Juniors I know won 22 medals in all, but I dont have the breakup.
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IndiaSports wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:18 pm Angad and Sekhon Ganemat won the Silver in mixed skeet, so thats really a good performance. :clap: :clap: Lost the finals to Chinese team 33-36.
If any of our women player had a got quota we could have fielded a mixed team in Olympics as well.
There is Mixed shotgun event in Tokyo only in Trap, not in Skeet. Neither Men nor women qualified in Trap. In both Air rifle and pistol for 10 m events, there is mixed category, and we can be fielding 2 pairs each in both of those events.
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IndiaSports wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:43 pm Today was the last day, anyone has the count of the total number of medals we got here and the break up?

I guess we won 3 Gold(Manu, Angad, Manu/Abhisekh)
5 silver(Mairaj, Saurabh, Angad/Sekhon, Yashwini/ Saurabh, Women Team Rifle)
2 Bronze (Deepak Kumar, Tomar).

Did our men pistol team win any medal?
Please correct me, if i missed any one.

Also, Chinki Yadav, Tejaswini Sawant, Kynan Chenai, Yasashwini and Elavenil made the finals, so overall satisfactory results, we should be behind China but above South Korea.

The Juniors I know won 22 medals in all, but I dont have the breakup.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Asia ... mpionships

We are in 4th position. But we did reasonably well in Olympic events. Running target, Centre fire pistol etc are not olympic events.In my opinion, though we are joint third in quota, we may well be moving in to top 2 in medals at Tokyo. The quality of quotas from USA, Australia is not that great.
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IndiaSports wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:48 pm Joydeep Karmakar on Mehuli Ghosh



Its really really tough choice in this event and I hope since now we have that quota is 3P event, Mehuli gets a chance to shoot in the main event in AR and Anjum shoots the main event in 3P
Based on the selection criteria posted by NRAI on it's website, they consider average of 5 best scores in international events in 2018 (AG, WC) 2019 ( all 4 wold cups and AC) and first world cup in Delhi in 2020.

Based on that average following are the average the 4 shooters. -

Apurvi - 630.63
Ela - 630.25
Mehuli - 629.28
Anjum - 629.22

However, there are 2 bonus points which are added to the quota winners which are Apurvi and Anjum. So, Anjum moves ahead of Ela and Mehuli And it is impossible for Ela and Mehuli to catch up with her in just 1 event left before selection.

So, unless NRAI deviates from that policy ( which they rarely do), Apurvi and Anjum will be our 2 shooters in womens 10M air rifle at Tokyo.
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ISSF Shooting world cup started yesterday in Putian,China.

A bit disappointing results in first 4 events for us - in mens 50M 3P, Sanjeev Rajput had a below par 1153 ( he had a 1163 in Asian championships recently ). In Womens 3P, Anjum Modugil had a poor 1147 ( her scores at international competitions have been ranging between 1160 to 1170).

In womens 25M pistol, Manu Bhaker had a 583 and narrowly missed the final. Her scores in this event have generally been in this range except for Asian games last year where she had a whooping 593 and also had a 590 in the first world cup this year. I think she will need to be at her best and in the range above 585 to make it to the final at Tokyo. Quite possible for her with a little more focus. Rahi Sarnobat had a very poor 569. She has been above 579 in every international competition in last year. So, this is much below par for her.

In mens 25M pistol, Anish had a 578. He has been up and down really ranging between 567 to a high 588 ( in first world cup this year). So, do not know what to expect from him. Good thing although he finished 10th overall, he was best among those who have not earned the olympic quota. So, he will likely retain his spot as the highest ranked player among non quota winners so far.

Anyway, except for Manu who was average, all our shooters had a below par performance. Hope it is only a temporary downturn due to too many tournaments recently.

We have all the 10M events in rifle and pistol events tomorrow which is our real strength. So, let us see how it goes.
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