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may be u r right we shouldn't care.. but I feel we should get hold of some people in US media -- and now and then we should also write some nice good articles(about India) in some of the most read news papers and may educate the americans..
this way they will also know the good things abt India..
(IF only I have that kind of contact and power to do such things..)
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arjun2761 wrote:Why do you care about what they say? There are plenty of Indian journalists that are critical about the US (Rajeev Srinivasan et al.) -- do you see the Americans caring about them?
just to give you an example;

just remember Indra Nooyi episode. we all saw how "caring" americans were at that time.
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Psubrama wrote:may be u r right we shouldn't care.. but I feel we should get hold of some people in US media -- and now and then we should also write some nice good articles(about India) in some of the most read news papers and may educate the americans..
this way they will also know the good things abt India..
(IF only I have that kind of contact and power to do such things..)
In business and investment circles in the US, India is now very highly regarded (although well below China). Despite the negative mass media portrayals, the decision makers in the US are very well aware of (and sanguine about) India's immense potential in the near future. Eventually, our embassy and India interest groups need to step up the publicity efforts in the mass media but in the short term no harm is really being done at least among the folks that count.
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arjun,
maybe you dont want to remember that??
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Not sure what you are implying here. Indra Nooyi was roasted by the right wing segments in the US which is normal in the political system here since she being perceived as a representative of Pepsico, an American company. Sort of like the left wing in India jumping on someone that makes statements supporting the position of the BJP or vice versa. Don't see as being particularly pertinent to Indians caring about what foreigners say.
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arjun2761 wrote:Not sure what you are implying here. Indra Nooyi was roasted by the right wing segments in the US which is normal in the political system here since she being perceived as a representative of Pepsico, an American company. Sort of like the left wing in India jumping on someone that makes statements supporting the position of the BJP or vice versa. Don't see as being particularly pertinent to Indians caring about what foreigners say.
Right wing or left wing , they were americans and it looked like a good majority supported that view.

It took just one negative statement for all that venom to come out.

Now I just pointed out to you so that you will not dare to lecture about how good americans deal with negative reporting
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Thanks Jimmy, that was a good speech, but I thought she could have givena better example than a middle finger one :)
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jimmy wrote: Right wing or left wing , they were americans and it looked like a good majority supported that view.

It took just one negative statement for all that venom to come out.

Now I just pointed out to you so that you will not dare to lecture about how good americans deal with negative reporting
Venom had nothing to do with the "reporting." It had to do with the views reported -- the rest of your diatribe just provides perfect examples of some Indians (read bureaucrats) who are "world illiterate." :)
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arjun2761 wrote: Venom had nothing to do with the "reporting." It had to do with the views reported -- the rest of your diatribe just provides perfect examples of some Indians (read bureaucrats) who are "world illiterate." :)
Yes , a "perfect" reply coming from mayo's disciple.
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Nice speech by Indra Nooyi. The analogy was tremendous.
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Indian to the Core, and an Oligarch
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/busin ... ei=5087%0A
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Good stuff from Anil Ambani

Spielberg Said to Be Seeking Deal
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/busin ... fIrbfkRbLg

Spielberg, India Firm Near Deal to Ally With DreamWorks
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1213749 ... whats_news
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Indian to the Core, and an Oligarch
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/busin ... ei=5087%0A
I liked how the Mr.Ambani mentions Gandhiji (in page 6).   Many people simply did not understand what Gandhi's true economic principles were, because he used very poor concepts to explain it - like Charkha.   Austerity was not really the core economic belief in Gandhi; rather it was the decentralization of work to our population.  "Every mouth comes with two hands too" is my favorite Gandhi quote.  What the hands could do was what Nehru, Indira and other never thought of - when they went for centralized planning of outdated large industries with Russian help and worried about "Hatao"ing "Garibi" (which was simply to feed the mouth forgetting about the hands - and even then Indira was not serious about it and wasn't looking beyond the political mileage). 

Gandhi was not one who wanted "socialism".  He wanted capitalism, but of a kind that would provide work to our people.   Nehru and Indira instead paid lip service to Gandhi and completely destroyed Indians' productive capacity.

In a strange way, those like Ambani may manage to bring Gandhi's principles to practice in a true captialist way.

Mr. Ambani’s vision is to turn India’s weakness on its head. If manufacturing remains small-scale and fragmented, let it stay that way, he says. “The next big thing is how do you create manufacturing with decentralized employment,” he says. “The Chinese have got very disciplined top-down systems. We have our bottom-up creative systems.

He mentions products like handmade leather sandals from the Sugar Belt a few hours south of Mumbai, tie-dyed Bandhani saris from Gujarat, artisanal pottery, clothes, jewelry and the like. These wares would be produced in rural areas, sometimes in a villager’s own home. Reliance would forgo manufacturing them and instead teach residents what to make, gather the wares from disparate villages, oversee quality and market and distribute the products.
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How do you really bring about, in a country of a billion people, the individuality of every single individual?” Mr. Ambani asks. “How do you make sure that you create systems that empower everybody and bring them to their true potential? This is what actually Gandhi taught us.”  “The optimistic part to me,” he adds, “is that now these goals look achievable.”


Will Reliance be successful and make profit from this strategy? .. Is he serious? ... Who knows - but I think Mr.Ambani has a much better chance to make it work than politicians.

Jay
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