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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by vatsal323 » Mon May 18, 2015 2:29 pm

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by Sin Hombre » Mon May 18, 2015 4:45 pm

Does Sumit have any weapons in his game like a big serve or a big forehand DTL?

Without those, there is no chance that he can be a top 20 player in the modern game.

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by sameerph » Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:23 am

News about exclusive tour for Asian players -

Exclusive Tour for Asians from April 18 to Develop Existing Talent Pool

With not too much money (events with prize money of US$ 5,000 and US$ 7,500) and no ATP points, not sure how this will benefit Asian players. They will be better off playing on futures tour, IMO.

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by sameerph » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:09 pm

China seems to have finally got some real talent on the mens side. 17 year old Wu Yibing became the first Chinese player to win a Grand Slam boys singles title at the US open. He also won the doubles title with his Taiwanese partner.

Despite hosting premier ATP events for years now, China has struggled to find anyone good on the mens side. Wu may finally break the drought of a top 100 ranked mens player for them.

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by PKBasu » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:21 pm

:damn:

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Post by jaydeep » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:08 pm

PKBasu wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:21 pm
:damn:
:rofl:
Wu also became the first Asian winner after Leander's 1991 US Open junior singles title win ... Also, Yibing Wu and Yu Hsiou Hsu became the first Asian pair to lift the junior doubles title.

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by jayakris » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:56 pm

PKBasu wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:21 pm
:damn:
:damn: :damn: and then :puke:

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by Sin Hombre » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:19 am

He is almost the same age as Shapovalov who is reaching Masters semis and a year older than Auger-Aliassime who last week became the second youngest to win multiple CH titles and the youngest since Nadal to break into the top 200. The German-Spaniard Nicola Kuhn was also one of the youngest winners of a CH earlier in the year.

Very good prospect by Asian and Chinese standards (and ours), but nowhere near the elite talents of his age group.

6 Rafael Nadal 16y 9m Barletta '03
7 Felix Auger Aliassime 16y 10m Lyon '17
8 Novak Djokovic 17y 0m Budapest '04
9 Paul Dogger 17y 0m Oporto '88
10 Juan Martin Del Potro 17y 1m Montevideo '05
11 Horacio De La Pena 17y 1m Thessaloniki '83

12 Fabrice Santoro 17y 2m Telford '90
13 Alexander Zverev 17y 2m Braunschweig '14
14 Nicola Kuhn 17y 3m Braunschweig '17
15 Jimmy Wang 17y 3m Fergana '02
16 Tommy Ho 17y 4m Ponte Vedra '90
17 Pat Cash 17y 5m Sydney '82
18 Jim Courier 17y 5m Vina Del Mar '88

Shapovalov won his first CH at 17y11m and is around the 30th spot.

It certainly appears that there is an excellent generation coming through who are all making waves at the senior level at 16/17/18


Interesting too where Sumit was in terms of youngest futures winners

75 David Goffin 17y 9m Greece F4 '08
76 Tsung-Hua Yang 17y 9m China F1 '09
77 Kyle Edmund 17y 9m USA F29 '12
78 Adam Pavlasek 17y 9m Czech F6 '12
79 Kei Nishikori 17y 9m Mexico F18 '06
80 Adrian Mannarino 17y 9m Spain F11 '06
81 Marcos Baghdatis 17y 9m Greece F1 '03
82 Andrey Golubev 17y10m Italy F13 '05
83 Jiri Vesely 17y10m Czech F1 '11
84 Sumit Nagal 17y10m India F8 '15
85 Santiago Giraldo 17y10m Colombia F6 '05
86 Luis Horna 17y10m Ecuador F1 '98
87 Lukas Lacko 17y10m Italy F32 '05
88 Ivan Gakhov 17y11m Kazakhstan F12 '14
89 Feliciano Lopez 17y11m Spain F6 '99

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by sameerph » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:25 am

Sin Hombre wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:19 am
He is almost the same age as Shapovalov who is reaching Masters semis and a year older than Auger-Aliassime who last week became the second youngest to win multiple CH titles and the youngest since Nadal to break into the top 200. The German-Spaniard Nicola Kuhn was also one of the youngest winners of a CH earlier in the year.

Very good prospect by Asian and Chinese standards (and ours), but nowhere near the elite talents of his age group.
Yes, as of now I do not expect this Chinese to be a top 25 player or anything. But, top 100 or top 75 certainly looks on cards.
Sin Hombre wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:19 am

Interesting too where Sumit was in terms of youngest futures winners

75 David Goffin 17y 9m Greece F4 '08
76 Tsung-Hua Yang 17y 9m China F1 '09
77 Kyle Edmund 17y 9m USA F29 '12
78 Adam Pavlasek 17y 9m Czech F6 '12
79 Kei Nishikori 17y 9m Mexico F18 '06
80 Adrian Mannarino 17y 9m Spain F11 '06
81 Marcos Baghdatis 17y 9m Greece F1 '03
82 Andrey Golubev 17y10m Italy F13 '05
83 Jiri Vesely 17y10m Czech F1 '11
84 Sumit Nagal 17y10m India F8 '15
85 Santiago Giraldo 17y10m Colombia F6 '05
86 Luis Horna 17y10m Ecuador F1 '98
87 Lukas Lacko 17y10m Italy F32 '05
88 Ivan Gakhov 17y11m Kazakhstan F12 '14
89 Feliciano Lopez 17y11m Spain F6 '99
Yuki is right up in that list at #17.

Sumit has won 9 futures titles already when he is just 20+. At the same age , Yuki had won 7 but then Yuki won a challenger title before he turned 20 while Sumit is yet to win a couple of rounds at challenger level.

Also RamK won his first futures title only a month after his 19th birthday but had already won 7 titles by his 20th birthday.

Clearly these 3 ( Yuki, RamK and Sumit) are the best talents that we have produced in a while. Now, we only need all 3 of them to peak in next couple of years time and we can have a solid base for davis cup team.

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by Sin Hombre » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:51 am

Shanghai CH R1:[WC]Yibing Wu def. [2]Polansky 6-3 7-6(3)

Probably more impressive than the USO juniors win?

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by Varma » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:05 am

It is definitely a bigger win for the 17 year old 496 ranked Wu. Beating a 29 year old veteran (ranked 128), who had been a consistent top-150 player for a decent chunk of his pro career, got to carry higher weightage. However, the mileage one gets from a GS win (albeit a junior one) is more for obvious reasons.

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by sameerph » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:05 pm

This kid Wu is now in the final of $75K Shanghai Challenger beating all the higher ranked players on the way. He is the youngest Asian challenger finalist since Nishikori in 2007.
He next plays challenger legend Yen Hsun Lu. Lu has won 28 challenger titles in his career which is a all time record and just keeps coming to Asia and win these challengers to keep his ranking within top 75.

If the Chinese kid can beat him in the final we have to take him seriously.

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by Sin Hombre » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:16 pm

Lu retired after the first set so the Chinese kid wins his first CH.

I think he is #31 in the all time youngest CH winners.

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by Sin Hombre » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:23 am

Someone on MTF noted this which is quite interesting

It seems to be a sudden leap in level by Wu considering he was losing in the first round of 3 consecutive FU tournaments in May and July and then made the Chengdu CH SF, National games SF, Junior USO title and now Shanghai CH title

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Re: Asian Tennis players' thread ...

Post by PKBasu » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:36 am

Spinach at work...?

Perhaps not. He is not yet 18, and young players do sometimes take large strides in short order.

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