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This one looks promising. I’m eagerly awaiting good news as we watch his progression.sameerph wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:06 amDo not have his exact details but from the photos from his last week title win he appears quite tall for a 14 year old.
https://www.theindiapost.com/sports-2/m ... es-titles/
Manas is just fine, as far as I can see. He has been in Italy for over an year now. He is still only 15. Didn't look too good in the first three futures qualies that he played in Monastir, Tunisia last month (still got an upset over an ITF top-600 player, which is impressive for a 15 year old). He has had a tough time in the tour the last few months, which I assume is due to his Italian coaches adjusting his game. Hopefully for the better, but as always, I don't trust these academies a whole lot -- so I will hold judgment on that. I have not sensed anything bad about the Piatti Center though, unlike a few other "academies" out there. So let us hope for the best.
). Well said, and it is precisely what sometimes bothers me too... This is what all the academies seem to tell our kids. Play at the higher level against tough competition. Don't bother playing against all those "lowly kids" in Indian and Asian/African events. "You learn only by playing against the best" and all that. It is all fine and dandy, and even makes some sense, but where are the results? Has it helped even one Indian kid to go to the top-100 (or even top-200?).
Respectfully disagree. Seeing from the close quarters on the grind that my son is going through for last 5 years, I personally believe playing against top ranked players really help. I am resonably sure, there are other tournaments that Manas or any other similar player plays that keeps up their confidence and academies do their best on that (again, my opinion). Playing against these players push you to improve or perish. Nadal and Alcaraz are rarest of rare players (all time greats) and can't be compared. I strongly believe in next 5 to 10 years, we will have many Top 100 players from India.jayakris wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:53 amWell said, and it is precisely what sometimes bothers me too... This is what all the academies seem to tell our kids. Play at the higher level against tough competition. Don't bother playing against all those "lowly kids" in Indian and Asian/African events. "You learn only by playing against the best" and all that. It is all fine and dandy, and even makes some sense, but where are the results? Has it helped even one Indian kid to go to the top-100 (or even top-200?).
The ones who have done it are still LP, MB, Sania, Somdev, RamK, Sumit, Nirupama, Ankita, Gunner, Prakash, Saketh, Harsh in the last 25 years... None of them took that route of playing only against the top players and crashing into the top levels like the Nadals and Alcarazes could. They all developed rather slowly over time by playing a lot against a lot of bad and good players. I think Indians need that period, to develop physically and get accurate with their game. Need a lot of matches against good and bad players in that process. 1 or 2 and out in top events is of no use. You need 40-50 matches each for 2 or 3 years in the juniors. RamK is the only one who survived through the European plan, but I believe he did well despite the academy advice, and only because of his own talent and perseverance against adversity. But that is just my view. What do I know?
I have said my uneducated above view many times, but why not repeat?
Yes, i agree. But mostly academies take care of those other matches . Of course, I am generalizing here.jayakris wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:20 am ^^^ Yes, of course, playing against top players really help, and it must be done. My complaint is that playing against others also needs to be done. That often does not happen. Number of competitive matches you play are also important. One needs to try to get accurate at what you are good at (the higher percentage parts of your game) along with trying the high-reward but lower-chance shots that one need to take chances on, against the higher ranked players to win points. There is a balancing act there, where the easy matches also help. I mean you don't need to hit that inside out forehand to the right line, to win against the lower players so you can try it and if it doesn't work, you can still win - and you get better at it over time. The case in point in this is actually Sania. She lost a fair amount in the juniors against some no-names too, because she would come out hitting the ball to smithereens and getting better at it.
So anyway, there is no argument at all about playing the higher-ranked players. One should enter the higher ranked tournaments for that. Just mix in a few other events to get 20 odd matches a year where you simply get good at beating players, and working on your shots - that is all I was asking.
But what do I know? I don't even play any tennis
May I ask, who your son is? By the way, welcome to the forum!!
