I am deeply puzzled as to why we didn’t even try one of the many doubles specialists that we do have. Some of them are doing quite well.sameerph wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:57 amYes, group 2 tie in September which should be fairly winnable even with current form of our players. Will summarise later likely opponents after all matches are done for the week.
Actually, we were a bit unlucky to draw 2 sides with 1 top 10 player. That meant 2 matches down and 3 must win matches for us which in our current form of our players was always going to be tough. Unfortunately, we lost doubles matches in both those ties which proved to be crucial.
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We played Saketh and Yuki against Norway and Rohan and Yuki against Denmark. They are our best doubles specialists as of now.knarayen wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:52 amI am deeply puzzled as to why we didn’t even try one of the many doubles specialists that we do have. Some of them are doing quite well.sameerph wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:57 amYes, group 2 tie in September which should be fairly winnable even with current form of our players. Will summarise later likely opponents after all matches are done for the week.
Actually, we were a bit unlucky to draw 2 sides with 1 top 10 player. That meant 2 matches down and 3 must win matches for us which in our current form of our players was always going to be tough. Unfortunately, we lost doubles matches in both those ties which proved to be crucial.
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We now have about 8 months or so left for next match , and mostly it will be against weaker nations.
and this type of opposition no better time to experiment and groom the next pipeline or what ever few drops that are available to make them match DC ready.
8 months will show how the doubles bandits are performing and from those results choose the best dbls combination to form as a main stay fulcrum of the team , then get on board the youngsters to condition and tailor them for the future irrespective of the results , rather than keep using the deadwood.
and this type of opposition no better time to experiment and groom the next pipeline or what ever few drops that are available to make them match DC ready.
8 months will show how the doubles bandits are performing and from those results choose the best dbls combination to form as a main stay fulcrum of the team , then get on board the youngsters to condition and tailor them for the future irrespective of the results , rather than keep using the deadwood.
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The fact is we need good singles players. This doubles specialist business cannot go on forever. One good singles player like Rune plays doubles against us and our doubles specialists are blown off the court.
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Re: Davis Cup 2023 - India
We have to agree, that our tennis is not global level. We have individuals who on their own are going up and down in their respective careers. Based on that someday we have good Davis cup results, sometimes not.
Currently we are at our worst in our 30 years history. Current players are weak/ past their best and there is hardly anyone new coming up.
So things will be bad. However, the last few weeks have been good. Atleast better than what we saw since 2020.
Karman is showing hope. She has good support. Ankita is trying her best to regain her old form. Yuki/saki are doing good. Bala/Jeevan had a great start. Prajnesh looks rustic vs what he was in 2018. But his fight in Kuwait is worth a mention. Sumit's fight against Rune made me proud.
With Bops on the way out, the last of the immensely talented batch of 90s will move out. They were talented but not a great influence. Even this I take positively.
I don't have anything else to say. I sometimes feel sad to be back to be the same hopeful guy of 1992 again after 30 years. I had hoped by now there would be a sustainable flow of top 50 players. The game changed, and became more physical. Our system was not capable to support our players in this new world. So most chose doubles to extend careers or recover years of investment they put in the game.
Maybe we move in steps and not in straight lines. So I keep my fingers crossed and remain the same hopeful teen of the 90s, hoping for miracle and good fortune for Indian tennis.
Currently we are at our worst in our 30 years history. Current players are weak/ past their best and there is hardly anyone new coming up.
So things will be bad. However, the last few weeks have been good. Atleast better than what we saw since 2020.
Karman is showing hope. She has good support. Ankita is trying her best to regain her old form. Yuki/saki are doing good. Bala/Jeevan had a great start. Prajnesh looks rustic vs what he was in 2018. But his fight in Kuwait is worth a mention. Sumit's fight against Rune made me proud.
With Bops on the way out, the last of the immensely talented batch of 90s will move out. They were talented but not a great influence. Even this I take positively.
I don't have anything else to say. I sometimes feel sad to be back to be the same hopeful guy of 1992 again after 30 years. I had hoped by now there would be a sustainable flow of top 50 players. The game changed, and became more physical. Our system was not capable to support our players in this new world. So most chose doubles to extend careers or recover years of investment they put in the game.
Maybe we move in steps and not in straight lines. So I keep my fingers crossed and remain the same hopeful teen of the 90s, hoping for miracle and good fortune for Indian tennis.
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Re: Davis Cup 2023 - India
So, these will be 24 nations which will be part of Group 2 ties in September-
7 from Asia ( India, China, Pakistan, Lebanon, Thailand, Hongkong and Indonesia), 7 from Europe ( Poland, Latvia, Ireland, Slovenia, Georgia , Luxemberg and Monaco ) , 4 from Central America ( Mexico, Barbados, El Salvador and Jamaica ), 3 from Africa ( Tunisia, Egypt and Morocco ) , 2 from South America ( Equador and Uruguay) and 1 from Oceania ( New Zealnd).
12 of the nations will be seeded based on the latest davis cup rankings which will be updated in a day or two. But, if we take the current rankings, we will be second seeded team after Equador and 12 seeds will be Equador, India , Mexico ,Pakistan, New Zealand, Uruguay, Lebanon ,Slovenia, Poland, Tunisia, Barbados and Latvia.
So, we will meet one of the other 12 unseeded nations which will be from among
Hongkong (away)
El Salvador (toss)
Egypt (home)
Morocco (toss)
Indonesia (away)
Ireland (home)
Monaco (home)
Jamaica (toss)
China (home)
Thailand (home)
Georgia (toss)
Luxemberg (toss)
Only 2 ties which can be considered be tough among these are China who has 2 top 100 players and Georgia who has 1 top 100 players. But,dont know why but China never fields it's top players for davis cup and Basilashvili did not play their davis cup team this week.
Other than Monaco has one guy ranked close to top 300 and Morcco has one in top 450, others do not have anyone even in top 500.
Possible matches may change a bit after the rankings are updated but overall looks easy enough ties unless we get China and they field their full strength team.
7 from Asia ( India, China, Pakistan, Lebanon, Thailand, Hongkong and Indonesia), 7 from Europe ( Poland, Latvia, Ireland, Slovenia, Georgia , Luxemberg and Monaco ) , 4 from Central America ( Mexico, Barbados, El Salvador and Jamaica ), 3 from Africa ( Tunisia, Egypt and Morocco ) , 2 from South America ( Equador and Uruguay) and 1 from Oceania ( New Zealnd).
12 of the nations will be seeded based on the latest davis cup rankings which will be updated in a day or two. But, if we take the current rankings, we will be second seeded team after Equador and 12 seeds will be Equador, India , Mexico ,Pakistan, New Zealand, Uruguay, Lebanon ,Slovenia, Poland, Tunisia, Barbados and Latvia.
So, we will meet one of the other 12 unseeded nations which will be from among
Hongkong (away)
El Salvador (toss)
Egypt (home)
Morocco (toss)
Indonesia (away)
Ireland (home)
Monaco (home)
Jamaica (toss)
China (home)
Thailand (home)
Georgia (toss)
Luxemberg (toss)
Only 2 ties which can be considered be tough among these are China who has 2 top 100 players and Georgia who has 1 top 100 players. But,dont know why but China never fields it's top players for davis cup and Basilashvili did not play their davis cup team this week.
Other than Monaco has one guy ranked close to top 300 and Morcco has one in top 450, others do not have anyone even in top 500.
Possible matches may change a bit after the rankings are updated but overall looks easy enough ties unless we get China and they field their full strength team.
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Ok, the rankings are updated and we are now down to #40 in the rankings which is fair after our loss to Denmark. But, still are #2 among 24 nations in group 2. But, there are a couple of changes in bottom 12 who are our likely opponents. Hongkong and El Salvador have moved ahead in rankings and are into top 12 now and Latvia and Barbados have moved down.
So, these are the likely match-ups now-
Latvia (toss)
Barbados (toss)
Egypt (home)
Morocco (toss)
Indonesia (away)
Ireland (home)
Monaco (home)
Jamaica (toss)
China (home)
Thailand (home)
Georgia (toss)
Luxemberg (toss)
Latvia has former top 10 player Gulbis and another top 500 player. So, they are decent. So, I should we should not pick up one of China, Georgia and Latvia. I mean they are also quite winnable but others are even more easier.
So, these are the likely match-ups now-
Latvia (toss)
Barbados (toss)
Egypt (home)
Morocco (toss)
Indonesia (away)
Ireland (home)
Monaco (home)
Jamaica (toss)
China (home)
Thailand (home)
Georgia (toss)
Luxemberg (toss)
Latvia has former top 10 player Gulbis and another top 500 player. So, they are decent. So, I should we should not pick up one of China, Georgia and Latvia. I mean they are also quite winnable but others are even more easier.
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Re: Davis Cup 2023 - India
@Sameer , so after we win this September encounter , are we back in Group I for the next year ? or few more rounds of matches in 2024 for a possible Group I entry in 2025
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If we win in September, we will progress to Group 1 play off next February ( like same stage which we played against Denmark). If we win that match in February, we get back to Group 1 for matches in September 2024.
So, 2 matches to win to get back to group 1 , then win 2 more in September 2024 and February 2025 and we will be in world group. Simple.
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Re: Davis Cup 2023 - India
We get Morroco at home.
Their singles players are ranked 450 and 678 and doubles players are ranked in 600's. Their #1 Elliot Benchetritn was ranked in top 200 a couple of years back and won M25 in Doha last month. So, he may actually be about the same level as the current form of our singles players. But, other matches look easy.
Their singles players are ranked 450 and 678 and doubles players are ranked in 600's. Their #1 Elliot Benchetritn was ranked in top 200 a couple of years back and won M25 in Doha last month. So, he may actually be about the same level as the current form of our singles players. But, other matches look easy.
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Ok so Morroco it is, and based on their present day rankings we are complaining for no apparent reason.
Their rankings are far more worse then us and how must they be feeling to fall to these levels after having in the past world top 20 players like Younes El Aynaoui, Hicham Arazi , Karim Alami etc...
So looking at them we should not complain and be pleased with what we have.
Their rankings are far more worse then us and how must they be feeling to fall to these levels after having in the past world top 20 players like Younes El Aynaoui, Hicham Arazi , Karim Alami etc...
So looking at them we should not complain and be pleased with what we have.
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Rohit Rajpal retained as captain till 2024-
Rohit Rajpal retained as Indian Davis Cup team captain
Rohit Rajpal retained as Indian Davis Cup team captain
Greater Success ? Means what great success he had till now ? Taking the team lo lower division ?t: MOORTHY RV/The Hindu
The All India Tennis Association (AITA) has retained Rohit Rajpal as the captain of the Indian Davis Cup team till 2024.
“We are delighted to extend Rohit Rajpal’s tenure as the captain of our Davis Cup team. His leadership qualities, vast knowledge of the game, and ability to bring out the best in our players make him an invaluable asset. We have full faith in his capabilities and believe that he will continue to steer the team towards greater success in the upcoming ties”, said Anil Dhupar, the secretary general of AITA, in a release issued here on Wednesday.