prashanthm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:20 pm
But I agree with all of those here who said that he has to make this point and move on. If not the subjective 'heavy heart' thing that feels one gutted or rotted, there could also be an objective path based on which he should stop these talks.
I am with you on this. Typically those who get into arguments because they have just not been taught or advised to think clearly and argue logically/tactfully, or those who are simply not articulate but had learned to "just talk" to cover up for talking deficiencies (which may possibly be the case with RamK) end up with a heavy heart after arguments, whether they win or lose the argument. If they are well-meaning people, that is. They would know that they just didn't make the point, that they picked up an enemy or lost a friend, etc. This is all bad karma.
Maturation in people that happens at late teenage years and early adulthood by age 25 sometimes requires mentors and gurus and good peers who will teach one to avoid such negativity in oneself. We all remember our college years and pointless arguments and conflicts from which we all learned better behavior. From my amateur psychologist vantage point, it looks like RamK still has some issues like this. So a good guy (which people used to say about him, but probably no longer do, because of the continued "bad guy" behavior) simply just falls into a bad spiral of negativity.
Basically, it is all bad karma. It is just bringing in extraneous thoughts and troubled feelings in one's mind when one should be focusing only on the fuzzy yellow sphere one needs to whack.
"Heavy heart" is probably not the word. "Troubled heart", maybe. Bad Karma, precisely.
How many times have people been able to cajole the ump into overturning the point based on an argument? I guess, very few, if any at all. So, he needs to understand at least one of these thought processes and get a move on.... It'll make him less nervous and calmer and may get him better results - who knows?
Totally so. It is so damn simple. And easy to see, logically. I have no idea why RamK doesn't see this. Actually there are many other players who pointlessly argue with umpires, but that is usually just in the heat of the moment and they all know that it is not of any use. So they don't keep on going. With RamK, it is like he doesn't even know that this is of no point. Because it is never getting better. Like nobody has ever told him. Maybe nobody has, for all I know. Isn't there anybody in his family or coaching circles, who can tell him? He can't be that dumb to see the logic.
Again, just see how his mind wanders after positioning himself to receive serve at 1-5 30-40 yesterday, when he suddenly started talking to the umpire (while still in his crouched position with the racket to receive the serve, and not even really turning his head, which was still looking at JJ about to serve). He was in tennis playing mode, but his mind was totally somewhere else. I have never seen a tennis player's mind wandering that late when the ball is about to be in play, to an earlier line call. A 28 year old man with 12 years of pro experience, top-10 wins and near-top-100 ranking once, is doing this?
Somebody needs to talk to him. Like I said, this is all his "crying out for help" to get out of the negativity that pervades him - even if RamK doesn't realize it.