Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by sameerph » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:54 am

prasen9 wrote:
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He is at #80 by live rankings. Yuki was #83 career high. There is a chance that Prajnesh will be better than Yuki's best! Go beat Ivo
He is actually at 82 in live rankings ( refer openera rankings which shows the correct position.)

Ramos-Vinclos, Gojovczyk and Feliciano Lopez still having a chance to overtake him. They are playing Monfils, Federer and Khachanov in next round.

So,decent chance of Prajnesh holding on to this 82nd position and overtake Yuki in career high rankings.



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by sameerph » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:55 am

prasen9 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:01 am
He is at #80 by live rankings. Yuki was #83 career high. There is a chance that Prajnesh will be better than Yuki's best! Go beat Ivo
He is actually at 82 in live rankings ( refer openera rankings which shows the correct position.)

Ramos-Vinclos, Gojovczyk and Feliciano Lopez still having a chance to overtake him. They are playing Monfils, Federer and Khachanov in next round.

So,decent chance of Prajnesh holding on to this 82nd position and overtake Yuki in career high rankings.



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by PKBasu » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:03 am

jayakris wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:59 am
Argh. He picked the right time when I'm abroad, to do all these fireworks. Go on Gunner. LP's highest ranking of 73 is within reach now. He can become the 5th highest ranked Indian ever (after RK, VA, RK, and SKD). Wow. Who woulda thunk? Jay
I don't think it's fair to say that RK, VA, Ramesh and Somdev are the top-4 Indian singles players of all time by rankings. Ramanathan Krishnan was ranked as high as 3 in the amateur rankings, but we cannot say for sure that he was in the top-10 in the world even at that point -- because many of the top pros were better than the best amateurs, but we can't be sure how many of the top pros would have beaten the top amateurs.

Similarly, Jaidip Mukerjea made the last-16 at Wimbledon four times (once in the Open era, albeit in the year -- 1973 -- when many of the top pros boycotted Wimbledon). Surely, he and Premjit Lall were among the top-50 players in the world for several years (including professionals and amateurs). In the Open era (but before ATP rankings began), Lall came closest to beating Rod Laver during the year that he won a calendar Grand Slam (the only one to have done it in the Open era).



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by PKBasu » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:19 am

[R1] Rohan Bopanna/Denis Shapovalov (IND/CAN) d. 2-Jamie Murray/Bruno Soares (GBR/BRA) 64 64



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by rajitghosh » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:21 am

I am not sure this fact of RK Sr being ranked no. 3 is correct. The famous journalist Lance Tingay used to publish yearly rankings. In that he was ranked No. 6 in 1961 among amateurs and no. 17 among all. That was the year he reached the Wimbledon semis and won 5-6 decent level titles. He was seeded 4th at Wimbledon in 1961 and 1962 but in 1962 he was seeded only 10th at the French Championships (he didn't play in 1961).
As for Jaidip he reached the 4th round of both French and Wimbledon in 1966, the same year he played a major part in taking India to the Davis Cup Challenge Round. So he would have been in the top20 among amateurs.
http://www.tennisarchives.com/player/?pl=1926
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_n ... is_players
http://www.tennisarchives.com/player/?pl=4147
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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by PKBasu » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:26 am

We are not talking about year-end rankings, but weekly rankings. So Ramanathan Krishnan would, by that logic, have been around 3 in the world after his second Wimbledon SF (1961), but down to 6 by the end of the year (given that he didn't play the US championship). He also would have been ranked quite high (3 or 4) after making the QF at the French in 1962 (having made the SF at Wimbledon each of the previous two years). He didn't play the US championships after 1959 (the year he won the US Hard Court championship; in those days, the US championship at Forest Hills was played on grass).
There is litte doubt that Jaidip was ranked among the top-20 amateurs in his prime, which perforce means he was among the top-40 players (amateur and professional) at some points in his career.



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by knarayen » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:16 am

Also not to forget, Ramesh Krishnan was 25 in the world in the mid 1980s on the ATP rankings list.



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by PKBasu » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:42 am

Yes, of course, and a quarter-finalist at the US Open in 1981 and 1987, Wimbledon quarter-finalist in 1986, and vanquisher of the world #1 (and reigning Australian, French and US Open champion) Mats Wilander at the 1989 Australian Open. Ramesh Krishnan was a worthy son to RK.



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by PKBasu » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:22 am

Coming back to Indian Wells, CA, circa 2019, Prajnesh does have a tough match against the big-serving Ivo Karlovic, who doesn't appear to have been broken yet in the tournament this year. But if Prajnesh manages to crack that (or keep up his excellent performance in the tiebreaks), he will next face either Thiem or Simon in the last-16 stage.



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by SaniaFan » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:06 am

How high was Vijay ranked? I think he would have ranked higher than Ramesh at their respective peaks.

Ok so his highest ranking was 16. He made 2 Wimbledon and 2US open quarterfinals. And he lost both Wimbledon QFs in 5 sets and the second one against Connors after being 2 sets to love up!!!
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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by Omkara » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:07 am

PKBasu wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:42 am
Yes, of course, and a quarter-finalist at the US Open in 1981 and 1987, Wimbledon quarter-finalist in 1986, and vanquisher of the world #1 (and reigning Australian, French and US Open champion) Mats Wilander at the 1989 Australian Open. Ramesh Krishnan was a worthy son to RK.
Wikipedia says his first title was on clay in '81. I thought he hated clay



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by Kumar » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:47 pm

WOW :bounce:

Just amazing! He has been amazingly consistent



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by PKBasu » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:56 pm

Yes, Omkara, Ramesh's first ATP title was in 1981 on clay in Manila. We've discussed this here before, and he didn't hate clay (he won the FO junior title, after all!). His second title was also on clay (at Stuttgart, where the tournament is now -- since 2017 -- played on grass, which would have been even better for Ramesh!).

Getting back to Prajnesh: yes, Kumar, he has been amazingly consistent over the past 11 months, while steadily making improvements.



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by rajitghosh » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:29 pm

Incidentally both the RKs won the Stuttgart event. Senior in 68 and junior in 81.



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Re: Indian Wells/Miami ATP 1000, March 2019

Post by knarayen » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:10 pm

Kumar wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:47 pm
WOW :bounce:

Just amazing! He has been amazingly consistent
Another similarity with the Krishnan’s. The upcoming match against Ivo may look easiest on paper, but the reality is more complicated. Ivo is just coming off a win against Coric. Coric made the semis last year and he is no slouch either.

Key is for Gunner to break and hold. Ivo’s game is far more than the big serve - everybody underestimates his return and ground strokes during return games.

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