British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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What is it with RamK and tie breaks. He loses a whole lot of them more than he should considering his big serve. Here too overall he won 4 more points than his opponent but lost the 2 tie breaks. It has to be due lack of focus while playing tie breaks.
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Tiebreaks are mainly a matter of temperament, and none of our top players has a very good temperament when handling them. Granollers, on the other hand, is probably very good at handling them at this age. Unfortunate loss today, but onto Ilkley!
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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It is very harsh to blame Ram, Ram played today the way he has always been playing , he didn't do anything wrong ,so when it works it doesn't get noticed.
Fine there were some mistakes which are unavoidable and can happen even to the best.

Before the match was talking to Ram and he thought it would be close as the Spaniards tactical play is his forte , combined with good ground shots on both the flanks he can change gears at right oportune moment.
And if one observes today's game, precisely same script emerged 
They know each other game in and out having practiced together in Barca on regular basis.

Till the last point one never knew which way it would end, so hard fought gladitorial battle it was , and in the end the Spaniard's vast experience which was the turning point and knowing Ram's game he knew exactly what to do when.

Had it been any other player in the draw ,it would have been a different result than today.
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Rajiv wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:50 pm It is very harsh to blame Ram, Ram played today the way he has always been playing , he didn't do anything wrong
Harsh to blame him when he serves 10 double faults and double faults at 4-5 in a tie-break to lose? If we can't blame him at that point then we can't ever blame him. Just because you happen to be close to player doesn't mean you have to lose all objectivity.
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Oh come on that is uncalled for, I know about your objectivity when you were close to a certain player.

It is just that he had a bad day, and it was not that he got blown out in straight sets, it was down to the wire till the last point and had it gone the other way , there would be a different opinion
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Jeevan-Austin r in the final after getting walkover due to Shimasdin's knee injury ... In the final, they r facing unseeded pairing of Nielsen and Salisbury.

At $150K+H Nottingham Trophy2018, Great Britain

[QF] (5) Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND,128) l Marcel Granollers (ESP,134) 67(5) 64 67(4).

Doubles
[SF] (4) Austin Krajicek (USA)/ Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan (IND) bt (2) Matt Reid (AUS)/ Adil Shimasdin (CAN) w.o.

[F] (4) Austin Krajicek (USA)/ Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan (IND) vs Frederik Nielsen (DEN)/ Joe Salisbury (GBR)
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Another excellent comeback win in extra match tie-break for Prarthana-Kumkhum against British pair ... In the final, they r facing top-seeds Broady-Muhammad.

At $100K ITF Women's Tournament 2018, Manchester, Great Britain

[SF] (4) Luksika Kumkhum (THA)/ Prarthana Thombare (IND) bt Harriet Dart (GBR)/ Katy Dunne (GBR) 57 63 15-13

[F] (4) Luksika Kumkhum (THA)/ Prarthana Thombare (IND) vs (1) Naomi Broady (GBR)/ Asia Muhammad (USA)
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Rajiv wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:48 pm Oh come on that is uncalled for, I know about your objectivity when you were close to a certain player.
I don't think I was not objective but forget it doesn't matter.
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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I didn't watch the match, but Granollers has a good serve and his volleying is what makes him a highly successful doubles player, so he has to be a pretty good grasscourt player. It showed in his straight-sets win over Fabbiano in R1 here, and he narrowly beat Ramkumar, in a final set tiebreaker, so no disgrace for our guy. The 10 DFs were unfortunate, suggesting that Ramkumar would have won had his game been on song -- and, in a tight situation, his temperament (rather than his game per se) let him down. Losing to a former world #19 (who is currently ranked very close to him) is not so bad in the overall scheme of things.
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Not trying to take away from the point, but Marcel didn't get to #19 at his peak because of grass-court skills. He has a 5-11 singles record at W and never got past R2.

This was a match Ram should and would have won with better temperament.
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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I wouldn't call it much of a temperament issue. RamK's problem has always been that he is never the best in his decision-making and instincts. He has a lot of skills and can do a lot of things, but you never feel fully confident that he would make the right decisions on picking the shots and executing. He may pick a lower percentage shot and mess it up at any time. I don't think that he gets tight and becomes worse in decision-making at crucial points though. And I have to admit that his instincts have become a lot better over the years. And that is why he has moved up to right outside top-100. But today he did some 2 or 3 bonehead things at the end, and really paid for it. I just could not believe that second serve selection today at 4-4 in the tiebreaker. I don't think it was nerves. We have seen him do such things at other times too. It just happened in that TB at a bad time. To be fair, he was losing focus every now and then too, all through today's match. It happened in a few second serves, which explains the 10 DFs, which shouldn't have been more than 4 or 5 max. Just an off-day where a few extra mistakes over the decision-making mistakes he usually makes (due to instincts that are still a work in progress) caused his downfall.
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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At the Ilkley qualies, Prajnesh squares off against Denis Novikov, a player who started his year well ,winning a Challenger, but subsequently his results have been tapered. Hiroki Moriya is in his half too and possibly could face Bryan Shunur the Notingham QuaterFinalist in the 3rd Round.
These Grass Challengers are fiercely tough.

:goodluck: Prajnesh
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Yes, this qualifying draw at ilkley is tougher than some of the challenger main draws.
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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Jeevan-Krajicek lost in the final against a good grass court pair Nielsen-Salisbury ... After winning the first set tie-break Nielsen-Salisbury dominated the second.

At $150K+H Nottingham Trophy2018, Great Britain

Doubles Final
(4) Austin Krajicek (USA)/ Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan (IND) l Frederik Nielsen (DEN)/ Joe Salisbury (GBR) 67(5) 16
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Re: British Challengers (grass), June, 2018

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First set to Prajnesh 6-4 against Denis Novikov at the Ilkley qualies R1.
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