$50K(+H) Pune/$100K(+H) Bengaluru Challengers Nov 13-26, 2017

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Re: $50K(+H) Pune/$100K(+H) Bengaluru Challengers Nov 13-26, 2017

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In Hyeon Chung, the Koreans already have a world-class talent who is about to make a serious breakthrough -- as the winner of the first ATP NextGen year-end championship.

The Taiwanese are a bit more haphazard than the meticulous planners of Korea. From Lee Hyung-taik to their current proliferation of talent, the Koreans seem to be on a well-planned path. Yang Tsung-Hua and the Taiwanese tennis talents are much more on their own, it seems. In Lu Yen-Hsun and Jimmy Wang, the Taiwanese had the core of a decent cohort of players -- and then a terrific cohort of next-generation juniors -- but they didn't make the breakthrough that Chung has made.
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sameerph wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:08 am True, Sumit was below these 2 Koreans in juniors and also of 2 other Koreans- Seong Chan Hong, Yunseong Chung ( to whom he lost couple of times each).
He is already ahead of those 2 now in pros. I think he will go ahead of other 2 Koreans too ( Duck Hee Lee and Soonwo Kwon) in a couple of years time. Just a guess. His training in Europe and tough competition there seems to have helped him.
I think Sumit can still pretty much beat duck hee lee and soon wo kwon on clay and hard too I guess it’s just that they have gone through an easy route of Asian challengers whereas Sumit has earned some hard point in Europe so that makes all the difference. I feel Sumit is better than every other Korean than Chung and could possibly beat Yuki too
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Anyone watching the live stream , the one i am watching is hazy and blurred and cannot even increase the resolution
is there any other site to watch it in better clearer format
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Same here, Rajiv. Very grainy and low resolution at the ATP site. The unpredictability of things in India, as usual. Yuki is down 2-4 to Sumit (serving). A beautiful rally of deep shots and speed variations by both... goes Yuiki's way, and he gets 2 BPs. Converts the second one. Back on serve. 3-4 and Yuki serving. Another of that untouchable forehands to the right service line corner and two netted shots by YB gives SN another break. 5-3 and he is serving for the set. YB gives a similar FH back and YB nets a rally, and it is 0-40 triple BP for YB. Superb power return from YB on the second BP, and he breaks back again. 4-5 on par and YB serving.
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[SF] Jay Clarke (GBR, 279) d. Tsung Hua Yang (TPE,295) : 6-3, 6-4

[SF] 3-Yuki Bhambri (IND, 122) vs. Sumit Nagal (IND,321) : 4-6

In the first Semi final, Jay Clarke from Great Britain defeated Taipei's Tsung Yang in straight sets : 6-3, 6-4
In the second semi final, Sumit Nagal broke Yuki in the sixth game of first set to lead 4-2, however he was duly broken by Yuki in the next game to make it 4-3. Sumit breaks Yuki again in the next game to lead 5-3 and he is now serving for the set. Sumit is broken by Yuki again. Back on serve.
Sumit breaks Yuki on the tenth game to win the first set 6-4. They were trading breaks in the last five games of the set.
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Sumit breaks Yuki at 15 to take the first set, 6-4

If the rally is long, Sumit usually wins it. Yuki has to go for a lot, and shorten the points, which draws out the errors. Interesting!
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A mishit, and a good shot that went a couple of inches long puts YB at 15-40 set points. A superb backhand winner falls just in, on a drop shot from YB, and Sumit takes the set. 6-4 0-0 Sumit leads.
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jayakris wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:38 am Same here, Rajiv. Very grainy and low resolution at the ATP site. The unpredictability of things in India, as usual.
And the irony of this sorry state of sordid saga , is that the Tournament Director Mr Sunil Yajman is now the Head of Corporate affairs for Atria Convergence a compnay which provides Fiber Broadband to the whole of South India and no doubt Sunil Yajman must have fixed his company with the Live Streaming arrangements.

Only in India one can expect , an ex Tennis administrator and a large Internet provider company instead of converging to provide unparalleled service , but instead we are left with this fiasco from Day 1. I have noticed our Indian Tournament Director’s enjoy all the same perks and benefits and sometimes even much more than their counterpart Tournament Directors worldwide , but when it comes to performing the basic duties or even matching their counterparts is too much of a ask for them.
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PKBasu wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:52 amIf the rally is long, Sumit usually wins it. Yuki has to go for a lot, and shorten the points, which draws out the errors. Interesting!
I find them to be rather even in the rallies, PKB. Anyway, they both seems very good in hitting the shots with depth, placement and variation and in handling some hard shots. Just that Yuki is a bit more error prone today. After 8 or 9 shot,s he seems to hit a shot too long by inches. Sumit is making almost no mistake at all. Very good tennis.

Oh what a return winner with that inside out forehand at break pt by Sumit. He got a lucky netchord to get to the Ad out BP too... Sumit is up 6-4 2-0... Sumit holdd at 30. 6-4 3-0.
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jayakris wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:58 am
PKBasu wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:52 amIf the rally is long, Sumit usually wins it. Yuki has to go for a lot, and shorten the points, which draws out the errors. Interesting!
I find them to be rather even in the rallies, PKB. Anyway, they both seems very good in hitting the shots with depth, placement and variation and in handling some hard shots. Just that Yuki is a bit more error prone today. After 8 or 9 shot,s he seems to hit a shot too long by inches. Sumit is making almost no mistake at all. Very good tennis.
Sumit has broken yuki to go up 2-0. I don't see yuki winning at this point. Total domination by Sumit thus far, unless yuki steps up in this game itself t break back to 1-2.

UPDATE: Sumit holds to 3-0 and dominates on the long rallies.
UPDATE yuki broken again to 0-4. Sumit's foot speed is really great. He is forcing yuki to flatten out his shots which leads to errors. Perfect game from Sumit to overcome Bangalore effect.he is now up 5-0. Big upset in the making. Sumit determined to win and get to first challenger final.
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Sumit's court coverage is excellent. He is returning everything that Yuki is throwing at him.
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Having watched Sumit closely in the past couple of weeks is that he has incredible speed and very quickly gets on top of the ball from any position on the court which keeps him in control of the rally
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It is not that Yuki is playing that badly. He is actually hitting a lot of ooh-aah shots himself, but Sumit just does not make a mistake AT ALL, and Yuki is a bit more mistake prone than usual, in his 9th match in 11 days.
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Yuki and Sumit should play singles for India in the Davis Cup next time.
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Without winning an extra 5-6 points on aces or something, nobody can beat Sumit today, because the guy is hitting shots like a machine and not missing. Yuki applauded him on a running BH winner that just fell in, from 5 feet to the left of the lines, just before YB was broken again in the 4th game. 6-4 5-0 Sumit, and YB serving to stay alive. Good service winner for 40-30. Two FH misses on FHs to the left corner by Yuki (the second a bad mistake from the net) gives Sumit a match point, and then an imcredible passing shot from Sumit to win it.
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