General Tennis Discussions

[PKBasu]

Wonderful story. Sandesh Kurale is clearly a natural tennis talent, who is willing to work hard. His fitness seems the one thing he's really worked on -- while tennis was only possible on the rare occasions that he was able to make the 60Km bus journey to Kolhapur across the state border from Karnataka. Amazing that he is now the under-18 national champion, beating the 13-year-old phenom Manas Dhamne in a 3-set final.

[prasen9]

Good points, Arjun. Made me see the point Prasen was making earlier. If indeed the demand for good coaches/physios/fitness trainers is higher than supply then most players will not have much leverage in negotiating payment terms with them. So yes the market will drive that and players just have to go into being professionals with their eyes open and hope that they can turn a profit each year by staying healthy and winning matches.

Anyone lower than top-50 possibly does not turn a profit for even one player leave aside a second person. What I was saying is this. If I am a coach and can get a job in a high school for say $40,000 why would I want to go coach for less than $40k? If I can get a job in the Nick Bollitieri academy for $65k a year, I would not want to take up a part-time job or contract for less than that. I may do moonlight for 3-4 weeks a year, but, I will not want to take a traveling coaching job with 1 player or even a set of players. It is very difficult to coordinate schedules among multiple players.

And, if they have other skills, e.g., to be a bank clerk and earn $50k or high school teacher, etc. they will move in that direction.

Yes, they want to be a famous coach but if you squeeze salaries lower and lower, people will leave. That is basic economics. Now, if you believe that your player will be in the top-50, then yes, you can take it as a business risk. Maybe if you yourself are young. But, when you have a family to feed, I don't think you will take a risk except when the player is truly exceptional. And, the lower the pay goes, the fewer people will stay.

So, I do not think tennis players can afford to squeeze coaches' salaries and expect people to stay. Here is an article on Pro coach pay structure.

[suresh]

Govind Nanda turns pro. His UTR is 13.84 which is quite good and he just won an ITF 25K tournament. All the best to Govind Nanda.

[Colee5]

djoko had a little hiccup today. huge fave to win now the other guys are getting to be passed it.

[Joesso12]

Wow that is great .....

[prasen9]

Govind Nanda, USA, made the semis of the Cary, NC event and is now ranked around #480.

[S_K_S]

The decline of Indian tennis from pre-eminence to its lowest ebb

https://www.thehindu.com/sport/tennis/t ... 937194.ece

[PKBasu]

Good article aimed at shaking things up. That Italy has 20 Challengers (plus the Rome Masters and loads of other ATP tournaments) while India has 1 to 3 Challengers in a good year (and currently no ATP tournaments at all) tells its own story.

But Indian tennis isn't currently at its "lowest ebb". We have potentially 4 top-200 quality players in men's singles -- RamK, PG, Sumit and Yuki -- and one in women's singles. The neglect of juniors is scary, though, and will have a bad impact down the road.

[Rajiv]

Due to Covid we shall have a extended Challenger session until the 2nd week of Dec which in normal circumstances usually winds up in mid Nov.
This will give our players more opportunities to garner valuable points.
Surprising Sumit has called it quits for this year and would have missed 10 weeks of tournament play since his last tournament in end Sept.Hope he reverses his decision and enters atleast last remaining 3 or 4 tournaments to keep him match fit for the 2022 season

[prasen9]

Sumit has a medical reason. He was injured and needs to rest. Hope he rests fully and resists the urge to come back when not fully recovered.

[Omkara]

I think entire Indian tennis contingent should take a break. They are playing awfully bad. They need guidance.

[suresh]

I think entire Indian tennis contingent should take a break. They are playing awfully bad. They need guidance.

Sumanta in top form.

[prasen9]

I think entire Indian tennis contingent should take a break. They are playing awfully bad. They need guidance.

Sumanta in top form.

Then, get him in the Indian team!

[Kumar]

Just wondering, considering the amount of rooftops in city, why are we not considering setting up rooftop tennis courts? One of the biggest issues is the access of tennis courts and court time, which can get very expensive very quickly.

I presume, this will be uncomfortable for residents on the top floor(with the noise). Are there any other reasons this is not viable?

[suresh]

Just wondering, considering the amount of rooftops in city, why are we not considering setting up rooftop tennis courts? One of the biggest issues is the access of tennis courts and court time, which can get very expensive very quickly.

I presume, this will be uncomfortable for residents on the top floor(with the noise). Are there any other reasons this is not viable?

It is impossible to walk on the roof tops of apartment complexes as there are lots of pipes and wires. Tennis is out of question.