Men's and Women's Hockey World Cups 2018

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Re: Men's and Women's Hockey World Cups 2018

Post by ssp » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:56 pm

Yes Jay, always happens to us...always.

However, if you lose twice to Ireland, you have no business in a WC semi. We had more possession, more PCs, but as is standard for ALL Indian hockey teams...we just can't take our opportunities. How many times have we seen our teams throw away matches that should have been won by 2-3 goals??

We played ok in patches, but just did not score enough goals and still make too many basic errors or gift away possession. I'm not convinced by Marijne coaching skills. We had poor PC options (probably the worst conversion rate) and left too much space on the flanks at times. Ball speed was a bit too slow....but QF is better than I expected! ;)

If we don't win the Asian games, I expect Marijne will be sacked.

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Re: Men's and Women's Hockey World Cups 2018

Post by prasen9 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:52 am

jayakris wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:54 pm
I was itching to say "don't count the chickens.." the last couple of days, but didn't have the heart to kill your excitement, ssp. I too feel terrible. Oh well. This kind of stuff just happens to us. It always does.
In many sports, the #10 team would have only about a 60% chance of beating a #16 team on a particular day and a #11 team, maybe about 55% chance. Assuming these are more or less independent events, then the chances of making the final are possibly low. And, when these things happen, say 40% of the time, we think it always happens! We notice the failures to lower-ranked teams than the successes because, of course, we 100% expected to win. I made up these numbers, of course, because I do not have the hockey scores. Drawing a lower-ranked team after dominating happens. And penalty shootouts are crapshoot anyway. About the "happens to us", notice that the draw opened up due to upsets. So, it happens to others too.

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2018 Men's World Cup

Post by ssp » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:08 pm

The squad for the C has been announced. As usual we have some weak (hopeless is more appropriate in some cases) players included and I feel we will do well to reach the QF given the generally rubbish year (CT excepted) we have had.

Here's the full squad:

P R Sreejesh, Krishan Bahadur Pathak
Harmanpreet Singh, Birendra Lakra, Varun Kumar, Kothajit Singh Khadangbam, Surender Kumar, Amit Rohidas
Manpreet Singh (Captain), Chinglensana Singh Kangujam (Vice Captain), Nilakanta Sharma, Hardik Singh, Sumit
Akashdeep Singh, Mandeep Singh, Dilpreet Singh, Lalit Kumar Upadhyay, Simranjeet Singh

We should have selected better options for Amit Rohidas, Kothajit, Akashdeep & Mandeep at least. Chinglensana had a poor ACT and I'm surprised Vivek Prasad was over looked. Rupinder Pal, Sunil and Ramandeep are the most obvious omissions-although the latter two might be injured. Rupinder Pal's been dropped because of poor performances. I'm in complete agreement on that one. However, the same logic or criteria is not being applied to Akashdeep and Mandeep.

I can't see our forwards doing anything special and PC flicks will be overly reliant on Harmanpreet. Often he fails to get past the 1st runner or flicks straight to the keeper.

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