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Post by jorden390 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:24 am

if there was a rivalry against india and pakistan im sure football wud have developed big itme!

and our ranking wud go up

sadly no rivalry among them too

have u realised? if pakistan plays well in a sport india seem to co pete with them and the ones they dont do well india too seems less interested to improve



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Post by jorden390 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:27 am

i see lotta regional praise in this column..

sad real sad i dont agree with any of you!

whoever is chose is chosen let the professional do their work?
anyway are you people even qualified to discuss it?

i trust bob houghton



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Post by jorden390 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:35 am

instead of sitting in front of the computer and blowing our tops!!

why dont any of us do something?


i guess...none are for the job so let them do wht they are and enjoying thmeselves..!!arrrgghh!!

none of us have the guts or the time to do so!



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Post by murlikt » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:08 pm

The only people that can do anything are the players, officials, and the media, and also sponsors. Only if a big rival comes and shows desire to take his job then you will see a story happening, but its the same with Hockey and other Olympic sports in India, nobody wants to change. The government can step in but cmon they are all together in politics. I am just hoping there is a big business tycoon or someone who will challenge the situation



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Post by murlikt » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:00 am

This news about AFC boss Velappan urging India to become professional. Considering Velappan is born in India he will have personal interest in India. He must put pressure on the AIFF to change things. Whats the point of being professional when the president is working part-time and is a politician. It starts at the top, I dont see the AIFF asking for ideas from the Japan federation they only beg our PM to go ask for help in Brazil. They are paid for nothing

http://www.hindu.com/2006/10/31/stories ... 532000.htm
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanheral ... 061030.asp



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Post by goan_star » Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:12 am

Das Munshi was in Goa to inaugarate the renovated Duler ground that is
entirely done by the hard working GFA, without even a penny from state or center or AIFF or FIFA. Cheers to them, they even have an alliance with Portuguese for youth development in Goa. Great guys, you really set an example for national level guys.(http://www.soccernetindia.com/modules.p ... e&sid=3549).

Out there the great Munshi-ji gave a big sermon on how schools, the miners of Goa, etc. should support football and develop it.
Can somebody ask him what he is doing through AIFF for football in India? What has happened to this 2014 project or is it planned for 20014? Is there any youth development programme stemming out from AIFF?
Down with Dasmunshi. Why he is still shamelessley there and not resigning, red-carded or being kicked out ?
Other politician-cum-sportmafia Kalamadi is heavily criticising the cricketing mafias for their recent debacles without realizing the extinsion of atheletics he has already casued in the country!!
Sports administration in India that is Bharat is a big joke!



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Post by murlikt » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:44 am

Man what can be said...I agree with everything you just wrote

Indian sports is very underacheiving, for a country that is making fast progress. Yes parents do not encourage kids to be proffessional sportsmen, but Indians from poorer backgrounds also don't get the chance. And the administration is really sad when it is ok to be average, because these guys are powerful politicians they can hold the job. TYhe AIFF is not run like a proper administration, they are amateur and still they get paid. Nobody has the voice to change the president because he has the power and he can get votes for elections this way.

One thing to think abt is how Iran just got banned from FIFA because of govt interference in football there. I don't know if India applies but our game run by politicians and they are not letting the game develop like its potential. I hope FIFA takes action against the AIFF also, for the long term future.



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Post by goan_star » Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:30 pm

MK,

Thanks for your response. I too agree with what you have said.
The bulk of Indian population has only complete apathy for sports. The Govt. is also not ready to encourage or  make sports as an Industry, just the way it is in other countries. For them the Cricket is the only sports, (and sports means cricket) even if the billionaire-lords-mafia guys get royally thrashed day in and day out. No one cares for other sports. 
So guys like Munshi, Kalmadia and Gill  et al. can run, rape, ruin and abuse Indian sports. What a shame. Come Olympic or world cup and everybody will start to talk, and after that back to square one. Now Beijing Olympics are coming and what are we doing? We will have a camp one month in advance and hope that the army shooter guy wins another medal for us like he did last time. Our bosses don’t seem to have realized that sports preparation is a continuous process.
A few guys here and elsewhere that are pissed off with the situation feel bad and cry hoarse, that’s all. I don't think with the present attitude, policy, infrastructure, we will be able to compete and win at the international level.

But I am optimistic someday our great nation will shine.
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Post by murlikt » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:28 am

I am also optimistic...I dont know abt India making the WC soon but at least I think the standard will rise.

Look at how the politicians are getting involved in the cricket...they are using cricket to deflect their own problems, look at how our hockey team is selected, and we ask why we never win medals. I worry that the Delhi games will embarrass India and show the reality. If our shooters do not perform we will not get far. But like you say cricket seems to be the sport the politicians care abt because it brings them publicity.

We can never progress in football if the AIFF relies on FIFA, AFC, Nike, Zee, and state associations to do all the hard work. Nowadays you need full-time people to plan and run things, noty have a meeting every 3 months. What the GFA has done is very good, but the AIFF should be also doing it around the country. As you said the money is there just no initiative



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Post by murlikt » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:27 pm

This is great news, and if you are reading Arunava & IFSC team...thanks you. We will not know how Indian football would be without this team but I definetely think it would be worse off, plus many fans would not know Indian football existed:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_ ... 070003.htm

Lets hope something comes from this aggreement, I remember the last deal with Leicester was finished and if the AIFF realises it is a 2-way thing where you have to spend as well as recieve then it can work. German football can show our clubs how to be professional but the Japan FA has also done a similar thing to help but no real development.

Again it is a similar story, the clubs should make effort to go proffesional but also if the rules allow them to sign any foreign player and sack him after 2 weeks then we are not giving chances to our Indian players plus bringing low-standard foreigners. The NFL season is squeezed together they need to make it longer to give the players rest and play at supporter friendly times. The AIFF has to take example and make the clubs change by bringing new rules, ideas, and new people into the planning.

Whatever happens with the Germany thing at least the indianfootball guys will be there to help the Germans see the real situation, thats why this deal is probably even more exciting than the Brazil one



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Post by Insider » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:07 pm

Great stuff Arunava!



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Post by jaydeep » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:39 am

Great news and special thanks to Arunava & IFSC team.



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Post by murlikt » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:15 am

New initiative from FIFA to develop football in 2007:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_ ... 070003.htm

Sounds good, heard it before, hopefully it is different this time. This time there is Nike, Zee TV, Bob Houghton, German FA help, plus in general more money to spend.



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Post by India1989 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:44 pm

India is not improving at all in football. We need to find players from Manipur. Northeastern part is our greatest resource. We are not using it. Don't know how much talent we have lost so far. But we need to do talent search over there.



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Post by Dhruv » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:17 pm

Let me put it this way.  The TFA (basically u-16 academy) had been threatening to qualify into the elite division of club football in India for the past few years.  This year they actually topped the second division of Indian football to qualify for the National League.  A bunch of 16 year old kids defeated "professional" clubs to make it to the NFL. 

They are not taking part though as the prospect of an U-16 team in the NFL wouldn't speak to highly of  the level of the NFL and also might do damage to the psyche of the 16 year olds (I guess).  The question is what happens to these obviously talented teenagers once they leave the TFL.  How is it that their game doesn't improve by leaps and bounds as should  be expected of any 15-16 year old footballer? The problem isn't really with there not being talented footballers in the U-16 age category but them taking those to the next level. 

Hopefully the new FIFA initiaitive will help with some of that.



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